Posted By: The Channel 9 Team | Dec 13th, 2004 @ 10:26 AM | 218,859 Views | 72 Comments
"Wicked," is how interviewer Robert Scoble reacted when he saw the MSN Toolbar Suite demoed. Today Microsoft announced the MSN Toolbar Suite beta. You can get it now at http://beta.toolbar.msn.com.

What does it do?

Desktop Search!

The Toolbar Suite team took some time out of their busy schedule last week and here they answer a ton of questions about the team and the product. Here the Silicon Valley team demonstrates the new MSN Toolbar Suite and answers Channel 9's questions.

There are actually two interviews. In the other video, linked here, you'll meet the Redmond team. This is a long one, but we wanted you to get as complete a view of this great new product. Oh, yeah, it's a free download.

Pictured in this video is Bubba Murarka (on the left) and Marek Gorecki (the geek).
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scobleizer wrote:
I'm trying to get them to give the reg hack to us.


That would be great, Thank you



[Update] I tried what he does in the video...I added a DWORD called "Buttons" with a value of 0 and it didn't work. Hmm... [/Update]
XxDesmus_MODxX wrote:

I tried what he does in the video...I added a DWORD called "Buttons" with a value of 0 and it didn't work. Hmm...


Desmus, scroll up, I've already answered this question.
rjdohnert
rjdohnert
You will never know success until you know failure
I have been using it all day.  This is great, best damn desktop search tool I have seen yet.  Im glad the Win 2000 guys get it too.  Forget WinFS just include this tool with Longhorn.  Im glad it doesnt index cached sites, we dont need that and it makes it more secure and Im  just curious as to whether this will index other users documents.  Im not a fan of web based Apps but Microsoft did this alot better than Google did and its faster.

great job!
congratulations to the msn toolbar team!

regards.

Anthony Alvarado
http://www.mentores.net

For reference, on my system I had it index my documents, emails, downloads, pictures, videos, and music, along with my network dropbox share.

All told, it indexed about 250GB of files in about 10 minutes.

This is on an A64 3200+ with 1GB memory.  Very quick indeed.

junior882
junior882
Developing ASP.NET as posed
Kryptos,

As with most software these days you must have the proper permissions to install software. Imagine a corporation with thousands of PC's and users installing anything they want. Not a good situation.

As for running with least priviledge mode, I think you are referring to the advice to develop applications with least priviledge mode in mind and in-so-doing developing under a least privelege account. That says nothing about creating an app that installs under least privilege mode. That would be a friggin nightmare.

From what I can see, this software meets that goal. I've installed my fiance with the software (using my Admin account) and she has been using it just fine.
junior882
junior882
Developing ASP.NET as posed
Don,

It's a tradeoff for sure. The key thing to know is that it integrates with the Windows shell, so there is some adavanced functionality that you simply won't find with Google's. I'm a Firefox user myself, but the truly useful part of the software, as far as I'm concerned, is the desktop search which appears on your Start bar. As far as the MSN Toolbar, probably not something I'll use on a regular basis.

When you do a desktop search, you'll get immediate results in a Windows UI. You can go with that, but if you click "More" or tap Enter, you'll get an IE window with an Active X listview of your search results. Very nice by the way.

I have my complaints about the IE-specific nature of MSN Spaces, but this one, not so much. Have a look at my posts...

Initial Impressions of MSN Spaces

and

MSN Desktop Search
soe
soe
Congrats (to us all) with the new tool!

Downloaded it yesterday and installed on my home pc. Some issues relating to regional and language, and some language packs needed to be installed. Luckily, this was included in the pack.
Also some troubles after the installation has finished and the toolbars were  instantiated - nothing seemed to happen and I ended up with a blue screen. No, not the BSOD! Restarted the machine and everything was okay and available.

I have used both the Lookout Search for Outlook tool and Google's Desktop Search for quite a while. Here are some initial findings after fiddling with the MSN Toolbar Suite (MSNTS) for half an hour this morning.

I searched for the expression "strategy" in all the applications.
Lookout found 777 items in 2,39 seconds, and Google found 283 items in 0,95 seconds.

Using Outlook 2003, I searched Outlook in MSNTS. Found 206 items. No information on seeking time, but speed seems okay. Time indication should be added. It is not that I really need it but it would be an okay feature. What's more anoying to me is that the search result is opened in a new window. I would like to see the results hosted in Outlook. There should be an option to select this feature in the program. The result of a search in Explorer is presented within Explorer, and not in a new window.

Still in Outlook, I select to search the desktop. Finds 321 items.
The options in the header of the results page are a bit confusing. Selecting "Show: Email" indicates that there are 188 items. Selecting the Outlook option (above the search field) indicates that there are 206 items. How come there is a difference? I think the items found on the topmost row ("Web, News, Images ...") should be removed and placed as options in the more category.

The toolbar in Outlook should also indicate more clearly where it is searching. You don't see which option is selected if you choose the Search button. In Explorer and IE it says "Search Desktop" or "Search Web"

I think there should be an option to allow the reuse of the search expressions across the applications.

Final thoughts. Good first impression of the beta. Think I'll stick with it and deinstall Lookout and Google, and hopefully save some disk space occupied by the different indexes, and save some processing time...

Thank you guys!





Hi!

I think this is the best update for the Windows Desktop since Windows 95 ;O)) No i'm joking!

BUT, I REALLY LIKE THIS FEATURE!!!

It's like X-Mas, Eastern and Birthday together!

Great work!

Greetings,
Stefan (Austria)
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