Jeffrey Snover - Monad explained | TheChannel9Team

ringi

How well does this integrate with ms-build? Will I still have to learn one system for build files and another system for shell-scripts?

tfl

MSH is truly awesome technology. With a pretty open beta, an amazing beta newsgroup (with some really deep thining), a highly responsive dev team, an architect with a sense of humour, not to mention some intellectual underpinning, etc, etc, etc, what's not to like?

There is now a MSH Wiki on Channel9. Head off to:
http://channel9.msdn.com/wiki/default.aspx/Channel9.MSHWiki

Balclutha

I think Mondad sounds splendid and I am very excited to see the command line interface evolving into something more powerful.

However, in the video Jefferey claims that MSH is more programmatic than Perl, Python and Ruby. I'd be interested to know what are the features that make MSH more programmatic than those languages? Did Jefferey have particular MSH language features in mind when he made that comment?

Arran

Balclutha wrote:
I think Mondad sounds splendid and I am very excited to see the command line interface evolving into something more powerful.

However, in the video Jefferey claims that MSH is more programmatic than Perl, Python and Ruby. I'd be interested to know what are the features that make MSH more programmatic than those languages? Did Jefferey have particular MSH language features in mind when he made that comment?

You can use any .NET language to create MSH components

JakeDAHS

Do you expect there to be a better solution for remote management via the command line or Monad? Nix having the SSH it would be nice to see something comparable in windows other than the telnet service.

widgetx
Me on crash machine

can you email me when the demo is posted?... Ive been groaning for years that the cmd (COMMAND!!!) is lame on windows... WSH, BAT files yuck... AND the fact that half the windows binaries dont pipe or redirect properly anyway or have unpredictable results!

The true geek in me came out watching this vid - so much so that I can see how ive modelled a lot of this in applications to accomodate just what Jef is talking about - process mapping with defined inputs and outputs that can be interogated - ... im such a geek!

Anthony.

Maurits
AKA Matthew van Eerde

JakeDAHS wrote:
Do you expect there to be a better solution for remote management via the command line or Monad? Nix having the SSH it would be nice to see something comparable in windows other than the telnet service.

All SSH is, is a telnet service wrapped in an SSL tunnel. If Windows came out with an OpenSSL analogue, then what you suggest would be trivial.

Xiaoth

Maurits wrote:
All SSH is, is a telnet service wrapped in an SSL tunnel. If Windows came out with an OpenSSL analogue, then what you suggest would be trivial.

I'm sorry, but that is not correct. I have made this assumption before, but I was corrected, too. SSH is not SSL+Telnet. SSH does not "speak" SSL, and they cannot talk to each other. There is, however, some overlap in how they accomplish some similar goals.

http://www.rpatrick.com/tech/ssh-ssl/
http://www.snailbook.com/faq/ssl.auto.html

PrimerFender

Facilitating the programming learning curve should be fun!!