Posted By: The Channel 9 Team | Jul 21st, 2004 @ 11:36 AM | 131,544 Views | 61 Comments
Digital photography. It's one of the hottest product categories. It seems like everyone's getting a digital camera lately, but managing those photos is really hard.

Some of us on the Channel 9 team, for instance, have more than 8,000 digital photos, already (and we know some guys who already have more than 50,000).

So, while we were wandering around Microsoft Research with Kevin Schofield, we wondered "what could be done to make organizing photos easier and nicer?"

Microsoft Research's Next Media group has the answer. Here Curtis Wong, the guy who leads the group, demoed for us their Media Browser technology (News.com called it Photo Triage, but the team actually calls it the "Media Browser" because it does more than photos).

This technology demonstrates how you could organize and look at your digital photos in the future.

Thanks again to Kevin Schofield (and all the researchers we met) for giving us a great look at some of what Microsoft Research is doing.

If you missed the other segments of the tour we got, here they are again:

Interview with Kevin Schofield
Tour of University Relations Group (women in computing)
Tour of Social Software and Hardware Groups (Wallop, MicroMotors, Hardware Lab Tour)
Tour of VIBE Group
(large and multiple monitor research)

Kevin has a personal weblog, and you can read more about what Microsoft Research is working on (we only saw a small fraction of what they are working on during our tour) on the official site.
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fdezjose
fdezjose
Hello from Madrid...
This is so cool, the 3D view is awesome.
Amazing. Now, how do I get ahold of that app? Smiley
Holy cheese burger! wow! When is this to be released?!
scobleizer
scobleizer
I'm the video guy
This is a research project. The researchers come up with ideas. This isn't a finished product ready to go to market. They didn't know when the product teams would be ready to go to market, sorry.

I want it in the worst way too.
ericch1
ericch1
NX-01, powered by .NET?
This app is very cool, but I am skeptical about how usable it is. I realize this is just a research app, but here's my opinions on its usability.

For example, when you hover over a photo, the photo highlights and gets bigger... but how about the photos next to it? The single huge picture obscures all the pictures around it! Typically when I look at a single picture, I also want to look at its surrounding pictures. Obscuring the surrounding pictures make it difficult for me to determine whether I care about the next picture to highlight it too or just to skip it. The current implementation would force me to highlight the next picture just to determine whether I care about it or not. 

The transitions are very cool, nice work! However, I also hope there is a way to disable transitions. If I want to do something quick, transitions only make the process longer and more tedious.

Overall I think the app is cool and has potential. However more UI studies would make it even better imo. I have similar complaints about Picasa too, so it's not that I don't like this app, I just like better designed apps. Tongue Out

CplCarrot
CplCarrot
Dust Puppy
If you want a lot of the functionality but without the WoW 3D engine then check out Adobe Photo Shot ALBUM. It has tagging, timelines, Bins (Called Collections) and also works on the pointer idea so the original is safe.

It has revolutionised my photo collections.

It was the first Application and UI that has really made me sit up and go "Yes" in a long time. I just wish it would accept non visual media files such as word docs. I guess I will have to wait for Longhorn for that.

Better still there is a free version which from memory has all the functionality but some restrictions on the number of custom tag groups you can create.

Charlie
scobleizer wrote:
This is a research project. The researchers come up with ideas. This isn't a finished product ready to go to market. They didn't know when the product teams would be ready to go to market, sorry.

I want it in the worst way too.


What are the chances of getting this in Longhorn?

If they're low would a petition help?

ericch1 wrote:
This app is very cool, but I am skeptical about how usable it is. I realize this is just a research app, but here's my opinions on its usability.


I think it would make a very usable digital photo organizer. With all of the great things I'm hearing about Longhorn, I was expecting user interfaces like this in Longhorn. I'm not sure whether or not I was wrong to expect them but I hope that 2 years from now Longhorn has these capabilities. It would be an entirely new meaning to "My Pictures," "My Videos," etc. Heck, with such capabilies you could just make one folder (for video/pictures) called "My Media." It would give people a huge reason to upgrade/switch to Longhorn.

[quote user="ericch1"]For example, when you hover over a photo, the photo highlights and gets bigger... but how about the photos next to it? The single huge picture obscures all the pictures around it! Typically when I look at a single picture, I also want to look at its surrounding pictures. Obscuring the surrounding pictures make it difficult for me to determine whether I care about the next picture to highlight it too or just to skip it. The current implementation would force me to highlight the next picture just to determine whether I care about it or not.[/quote]

The entire reason why you're hovering over it is because you want a closer look at it, not because you're going through one photo at a time. I think that the automatic enlargement is an excellent feature. For people that don't, Microsoft could have an option that controls how big the photo gets and perhaps an option to turn it off.

ericch1 wrote:
The transitions are very cool, nice work! However, I also hope there is a way to disable transitions. If I want to do something quick, transitions only make the process longer and more tedious.


I really like the transitions and think that they make the interface flow nicely. When this is a product, I'd like to see this in it.

ericch1 wrote:
Overall I think the app is cool and has potential. However more UI studies would make it even better imo. I have similar complaints about Picasa too, so it's not that I don't like this app, I just like better designed apps. Tongue Out


Personally I think that part of the problem you're having is that the presentation was poor. Check this one out:

http://news.com.com/1606-2-5234982.html
Very, very cool. Does this mean we can expect a kbMotionSickness keyword on the KB?
ZippyV
ZippyV
Fired Up
scobleizer wrote:
They didn't know when the product teams would be ready to go to market, sorry.

I want it in the worst way too.
What do you mean? That it's not going to be in Longhorn?
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