Posted By: The Channel 9 Team | Apr 15th, 2005 @ 6:42 PM | 74,094 Views | 45 Comments
Karsten Januszewski, developer evangelist, took us over to meet with the Avalon team. Pablo Fernicola, group program manager (guy who runs the Avalon team), Arik Cohen, lead program manager, and Rob Relyea, lead program manager on the XAML team, talk about the four-year development of Avalon, which is the future way you'll program Windows applications.

The really sexy demos start at 33:30, by the way. Don't miss those! Nathan Dunlap is the designer on those and his blog is here.

For more information on Avalon, please visit the Avalon Developer Center.
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Zeo
Zeo
Channel 9 :)
Wow! Very Very COOL...Any Idea if the 2nd application shown has been posted as a sample somewhere? I'd love to get a hold of that...look over the code and then create my own app using SQL server 2005.
nukeation
nukeation
Programmer AND Designer
http://www.erain.com/products/zam3d/examples/

check this out. this is what they're using. i got this from Nathan Dunlap's blog.

Oh man, i can't wait to release full apps with avalon. we're not far away from the futuristic ui we've been seeing the movies for so long now.
I really want to begin diving into XAML and the whole Avalon technology, but can some people answer me some simple questions.

The API's from avalon are finished? or is it still in BETA?

XAML is still a developing language?

What do you need to dev using XAML and compiling?

I can't quite locate one succinct article which will answer all these questions for me.


Thanks everyone.
Sven Groot
Sven Groot
My name has 9 letters. Coincidence? I think not...
Very cool indeed. I have a feeling in my little toe that we're going to see some utterly horrible UIs when this comes out (can somebody say 'the new Wordart'?), but we'll undoubtably get some really cool ones too. Just think what people like Jamie can do with stuff like this!
eddwo
eddwo
Wheres my head at?
The Avalon APIs have not been finalised, there were quite a lot of changes between the November CTP and the March CTP, and there are likely to be more changes before the Beta is released.

XAML has been more static, but a changes have been made in the compact syntax.

To start viewing and creating Xaml and Avalon code you need the March CTP.
This includes a version of .Net 2.0, the Avalon libraries and runtime, and the WinFX SDK which includes documentation, a build environment, and templates for the February Visual Studio 2005 CTP or the February Express editions.

You need XP SP2 or Server 2003 to install the CTP.

Download and install a chosen express edition from here:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/downloads/

Download the CTP from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=85ab132b-f1aa-4422-b053-272d79863013&displaylang=en

Either burn the ISO to a CD or mount it using an appropriate Virtual CD tool. This is a free one from Microsoft
http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/b/6/7b6abd84-7841-4978-96f5-bd58df02efa2/winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21.exe

Install Avalon, Indigo and the WinFX SDK from the CD

Have Fun!
Bruno Silva
Bruno Silva
Me.Location = Location.FromString(​"Channel9")
Can anyone tell me where to get the source of this litle app? i'd like to know how to do the borderless window in Avalon with the transparency. Thanks
scobleizer
scobleizer
I'm the video guy
I'll make sure the Avalon team answers this question (about source). I want it too!
Having already grown to love the declarative programming model from extensive use of Marc Clifton's MyXaml implementation. It is very reassuring to see the enthusiasm displayed by the Avalon developers for XAML matches my own. I look forward to seeing and hearing more from the team.

The Avalon controls also look like a large step forward from the current WinForms implementations we all struggle with. I certainly could have used the new Grid control on one of my recent projects.

The Avalon Graphics engine looks fantastic. (Although I'm not looking forward to the increased development costs of having to have professional graphic designers work on my projects. Hopefully there will be a lot of stock graphics provided by Microsoft)

Looking forward to playing with the new CTP
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