Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! http://files.channel9.msdn.com/thumbnail/7fab45e5-2434-4e9f-abca-9ba7a5734d6c.png Channel 9 - Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Visual Studio 2012 has been released to manufacturing (RTM)!! It's done. The most advanced IDE on the market will arrive soon! If you're an MDSN subscriber, stay tuned for invitations to download. Congrats to the Visual Studio team! Thanks to all of you who have downloaded the previews and supplied feedback and bug reports. You rock. en Wed, 22 May 2013 20:36:50 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 20:36:50 GMT Rev9 Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! YEA Baby!

posted by ChrisStepaniuk

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796161707587587 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:42:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796161707587587 ChrisStepaniuk Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! w00t!

posted by unt1tled

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796161821420545 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:43:02 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796161821420545 unt1tled Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! I'm ready to pivot!

posted by rayidukes

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796163367982394 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:45:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796163367982394 rayidukes Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Any word on any major changes from the RC version that I have been using for quite some time now?

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796191909436457 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:33:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796191909436457 Charles Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! You can invite me too !!!!  Big Smile

posted by RHAD1969

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796209710107090 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:02:51 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796209710107090 RHAD1969 Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! @Charles: There are no breaking changes that I am aware of. That said, you should ask this on the VS MSDN forums (where VS team people hang out).

C

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796215219609741 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:12:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796215219609741 Charles Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Prep those staging servers, I can't wait to get my paws on the RTM C++ bits.

Tip of the hat to all involved!

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796220713320782 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:21:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796220713320782 tomkirbygreen Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by Michael

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796261940181465 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:29:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796261940181465 Michael Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by Bar Foo

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796267347791433 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:38:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796267347791433 Bar Foo Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by JDT

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796289743530571 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:16:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796289743530571 JDT Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by mzwarrior

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796320432359501 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:07:23 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796320432359501 mzwarrior Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! w00t, w00t, w00t!

posted by jvs_ca

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796332493758971 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:27:29 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796332493758971 jvs_ca Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by Topper

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796351144416299 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:58:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796351144416299 Topper Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by Justin

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796380124468077 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:46:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796380124468077 Justin Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!!
Is Microsoft still in business? Didn't Steve Balmer nose give it into the ground yet? Everything he touchse turns to _hit! Guy is a bean counter, that's it, simply useless.

Now, Google! They got it going on! Innovation, good aquitions, incredible advancements in Android OS. Wait, didn't Windows have a mobile OS... what was it called.. Windows or Windows Phone.. wait.. what.. never mind, sorry they confused me with all their versions and half, kind of works functions. All thought I did hear they tile up a bathroom nicely.

Android!

posted by Burt

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796403532835121 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 01:25:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796403532835121 Burt Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!!
Mike, good news for you! I'm jealous, I just reviewed teh latest feature set... nice!

posted by Burt

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796412914302069 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 01:41:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796412914302069 Burt Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Great! 

posted by JS11

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796454403435627 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 02:50:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796454403435627 JS11 Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! One major change from RC to RTM is that C++11 atomics (an experts-only feature) are now header-only for increased efficiency.

posted by STL

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796505531616966 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:15:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796505531616966 STL Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Any clues about when we can expect the variadic and 'Windows XP binary creation' updates for the VC subsystem chaps?

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796569838069981 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 06:03:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634796569838069981 tomkirbygreen Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Woh! VS 2012 launch. Hope you have cleared out the bug of EDMX update issue.

posted by sandeepsachan

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634797410627273552 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 05:24:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634797410627273552 sandeepsachan Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! What about ASP.NET MVC 4?

posted by muammerguler

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634797912542799282 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:20:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634797912542799282 muammerguler Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by obed

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798032009864433 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:40:00 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798032009864433 obed Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! cool

posted by DeveloperDZ

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798219318652542 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 03:52:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798219318652542 DeveloperDZ Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Great!

posted by MKazanova

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798226764262585 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:04:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798226764262585 MKazanova Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Is there a list somewhere what bug fixes / changes are there compared to RC?

posted by Lrdx

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798427333237279 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:38:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798427333237279 Lrdx Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Woo hoo!

posted by snickler

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798732933191076 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:08:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798732933191076 snickler Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Awesometastic!

posted by cordelllawrence

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798799605972948 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:59:20 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634798799605972948 cordelllawrence Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by Jules

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634799732686681788 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:54:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634799732686681788 Jules Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by bobx

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634799890974676204 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 02:18:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634799890974676204 bobx Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! posted by ngine

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634801184144018209 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:13:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634801184144018209 ngine Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Great news!  Now if we could just get even a beta build of Phone 8 tools I'd really be happy!

posted by ArianKulp

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634805137887397468 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:03:08 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634805137887397468 ArianKulp Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!!
Visual studio 2012 have already been leaked.

Quite satisfying to see people actively trying to make microsoft lose money and punish them for not listening to the customers. Sad that you still have to make a company lose money before they listen to customer feedback.
Is this what microsoft is calling customer satisfaction ?
Microsoft keep regurgitating they are for things like open source and are listening to customer feedback and acting on it but their actions say something completely different.

The fact that microsoft is trying to lock in the customers into the same bad deal as apple did with its software and apple store is even more disgusting. These sorts of customer hostile overly controlling stores should be outlawed. They are anti-competitive, reduces software quality and choice, introduces possibility of price fixing and steep prices, hostile to hobby developers, etc. Not to mention there is no global customer rights oversight control. These stores can force customers into any agreement they want because there is no other way of acquiring the software.

Rumors say you will not be allowed to install metro apps made by hobby developers from their own site. You, as a hobby developer, will have to pay microsoft money to allow users to install their software.

It's a lot like protection money schemes the gangsters do to poor store owners.
First the certificate program (another anti-hobby developer scheme) in the name of "security".
The certificate program could have been done in a way to allow high security and still being free and microsoft knows it but they chose the greedy lock in path.
The more i listen to what microsoft say the more it sounds like the excuses the leaders of "holy" wars say to convince their people to kill their fellow man and to justify for killing millions.

For every release microsoft is locking in their customers more and more. Following the customer hostile path of apple.

What is it about freedom and choice microsoft do not understand ?!
This will drive many users into linux's hands. People that put off the linux transition because windows still offered some freedom and choice.

I really do hope microsofts continuously morbid stupidity and greed for the tablet market and refusal to treat customers with respect gets them burned very bad.

Europeans should file complaints against microsoft (and apple) for more anti-competitive behavior.
Both Microsoft and Apple really should be banned from selling in EU and fined for every single software license sold in EU that violated their laws. To make it extra clear and dramatic, EU should use the same "formula" for "calculating" customer pain and the law violation fine as the music and movie companies use for "calculating" money "lost".

American companies are getting more and more psychopathic by the year.
Even worse they are dragging the rest of the world with them into this act of self-destruction.

posted by Ziod

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634806365804809490 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:09:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634806365804809490 Ziod Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! If you dislike Microsoft/it's policies, don't use it or don't buy it. Don't crib for the rest of your lives.
It's their product and they should have 100% rights to decide how they want to go with it. They are not doing it for charity after all.

posted by Kumar

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634806405168374260 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:15:16 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634806405168374260 Kumar Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! So its all business, and for your kind information Microsoft is a brand and they can choose the way they want to do business. If you have problem quit Microsoft product, as simple as that.

posted by Winry

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634806484137172600 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:26:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634806484137172600 Winry Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! I just updated my Visual Studio 2012 RC to RTM and this is my experience with it.

  • I had 2012 Ultimate RC so I had to uninstall it before installing the VS 2012 Premium. (not sure about upgrade from RC to RTM)
  • Team Foundation Server (TFS) was already configured in the Ultimate and after the uninstall and install it was picking the TFS config automatically.
  • It took me about 2hrs to do the entire process of uninstall and install.
  • I'm running it and didn't encounter any problems so far.

Good Job guys!

posted by Ranch

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634807290372088637 Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:50:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634807290372088637 Ranch Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!!
I hope that Open Source Community will understand, that Microsoft doing great stuff and no OpenSource will ever ever compare to Microsoft power!!!

Go MS, i will always be your customer, i hope PHP will die.

posted by IamStalker

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634809204607036300 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 21:01:00 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634809204607036300 IamStalker Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Microsoft is a special case since they have the OS market by the balls.
There is really no competition. No good alternatives. For instance nearly all games are made for windows and it would be too much work to make the games compatible with other OS's like linux.

Why, you ask ?
Answer: There is no agreed upon binary standard of api calls.

If there was competition and all OS's were forced to support the standard. Than it wouldn't matter what OS's your program ran on. It would work no matter which OS you had.

Of course experience tells us based on other standards:
Every single software maker adds their own api's to the agreed standard to make their software more likely to be bought but what it will do is lock in those poor idiots that use the extension apis.

Take the C++ standard. The both intel and microsofts compiler got their own special extensions that if used will lock you in.

Many companies have been fooled and locked in. When the compiler they used went bad they had to spend much money on rewriting the code to make it compatible and follow the standard again. So they could switch to a superior alternative.

Short version: Companies are evil. They will bend the rules. Even sell their own grandmother to increase sales.
That is why we need good laws and good people that punish them for it and discourage future evil and rule bending.

EU did a nice job on microsoft a few years ago. I'm also hoping EU will do it again. Microsoft didn't learn the first time around.
Microsoft must have some real good examples of complete morons employed at high up positions.

posted by Simon

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634810185075840297 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:15:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634810185075840297 Simon Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Too shine or too dark with non-opaque tool windows, and CAPS (why's that for?). But there are some registry tweaks to make it more friendly.
Icons! Bring back old good icons from beautiful, modern and classic at the same time VS 2010.
Just kill your designers, burn them with fire!
So I see no reasons to switch from VS 2010 and burn down my productivity with the new IDE which looks more like Photoshop.

posted by xeonix

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634818740577143810 Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:54:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634818740577143810 xeonix Re: Visual Studio 2012 RTM!! Wow. there was a physical launch event in Reading (UK)  today?   Who knew?

 

posted by Ian2

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634830697037944831 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:01:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Visual-Studio-2012-RTM#c634830697037944831 Ian2