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Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

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Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Bill Mattox — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:28:28 GMT

Way cool... is there code available for the demo's. I'd like to compile and run them locally.

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

rhm — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:53:16 GMT

Digging up a pretty old thread here because I've just been studying the whole D3DImage thing which is an awesome, but very basic facility if you have a C++ 3d engine that you want to integrate with WPF. For example if you need to write a level editor for your 3d game you can use the actual graphics engine for the game itself in a WPF shell instead of the traditional choice of having to write a separate renderer for the editor that didn't use D3D or trying to code a user interface in D3D (which as David points out in this video, doesn't seem like a major pain until you actually go to do it).

Anyway, I saw in the WPF Futures video from PDC2008 that in the future we'll be able to use XNA as an ImageSource, thus keeping the whole application managed code. Any news on when that's going to be available? Hope we don't have to wait until .NET4. Although the 3d viewport in WPF allows you to do some 3d stuff, it's kindof reminiscent of Retained Mode in old versions of DirectX, i.e. good for putting a few objects on the screen, but nothing too serious. Having a proper 3d api in managed code with a surrounding user interface in WPF would be a dream come true.

Re: Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Adam Kinney — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:08:15 GMT

That's awesome! Thanks for the comment :)

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Tom — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:52:38 GMT

This single-handedly inspired me to move from Managed DX to WPF.

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Bryars — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:50:39 GMT

Thanks for the source code. The spinning 3d window thing is begging to be used as a some sort of gratuitus cool looking (and probably incredibly frustrating to use) menu!

I'll get to wasting as much time as quickly as possible!

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

abenedik — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:28:43 GMT

First, congratulations on doing a great job with SP1.

Now my question:
David, at 21:11 you mentioned that the integrated DirectX could also be used for wireframes.

After some investiation, the only thing I saw was a new D3DImage class (btw. it is very usefull). But it is not appropriate to create a 3d lines and wires.

So is there a way to use the real DirectX 3d lines or do we still have to use workarounds like ScreenSpaceLines3D and similar (use triangles to simulate lines) which are quite slow?

Re: Re: Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Eriawan Kusumawardhono — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:04:15 GMT

Thanks! But now where are the rest of the sample code of the video?

And again, it's been more than a month since Part 1. I may sound to be bad, but why can't I simply have the codes soon?
I think it doesn't matter for me if the code came directly enedited from David, instead of waiting for you to post the code, and it's been taking too long time to wait.

Eriawan

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

RazFaz — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:51:55 GMT

We need the source of the demos ,
as promised from david teitlebaum at his teched08@orlando session !

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Ilija Injac — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:13:48 GMT

Hey, this is really, really cool stuff ! Congratulations to David and all the other developers working on this. Thank you very much !

Re: Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Adam Kinney — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:46:04 GMT

Apologies for the long wait, now that SP1 has shipped we can celebrate by spending sometime on shipping the source code for these demos. You can find the first batch here: Teitlebaum's WPF Graphic Demos, Part 1

Hooray! :)

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Eriawan Kusumawardhono — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:07:46 GMT

I really like this video! So much! But now it's been more than 2 months, and where's the source code of this demo?

Hey Adam and David, even now .NET 3.5 SP1 and this includes WPF 3.5 SP1, has been released, where's the demo code? Please don't make anymore promises.

We want it now.

Eriawan

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

sen — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:25:25 GMT

Thanks for all your good work. I can't get a player created by EE template to link to a video source on a WM server.

Regarding this earlier exchange:

Hi Tim
Great screen cast, Thanks sohbet.
Dou you know what it will take to make a custom media player, that plays a streamed vide file.

jakob: the samesohbet odaları media player will play streaming URLs mirc as well -- just change the mediaUrl attribute in the javascript file to your URL for the stream mirc (as long as the stream is a windows media stream)

Sorry, but I can't web hosting find a mediaUrl attribute in any of the js files that EE creates. There is a mediaSource msn ifadeleri attribute in the MediaDefinition.xml file, but changing that to an URL does not work.

Sorry if this has been answered çet odası elsewhere. I have looked.

Chuck Allen

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Andreas — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:55:22 GMT

The source code for this demo would be really cool!!!
More votes for source!!

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

RazFaz — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:43:39 GMT

hello again....

i am very disappointed at the moment...
since the void SetBackBuffer(D3DResourceType backBufferType, IntPtr backBuffer)

which takes an IntPtr as a param, necessitating full trust. :P

Murrderizer wrote:
Fantastic demo. I have a quick question re D3DImage: Will it work in an xbap? In other words, if you have a managed dx9 rendering back-end, will it fuse with the new dx interop without requiring full trust?

Thanks.

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

Murrderizer — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:35:45 GMT

Fantastic demo. I have a quick question re D3DImage: Will it work in an xbap? In other words, if you have a managed dx9 rendering back-end, will it fuse with the new dx interop without requiring full trust?

Thanks.

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

erik_ — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:34:06 GMT

Cool!

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

intrepid — Mon, 19 May 2008 07:37:39 GMT

Hurry up and post some sample files :P I want to play with the demos.

It looks like you guys have done some really good to me, I'm really impressed. The next Office, Windows and everything else should be fantastic thanks to this technology.

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

jlc — Mon, 19 May 2008 02:38:57 GMT

Adam,

Very nice work indeed. What should I use if I wanted to access TV functionality from a TV Tuner card? Is that a DirectX only route or can something be done from WPF?

Thanks.

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

David Teitlebaum [MSFT] — Sat, 17 May 2008 17:52:04 GMT

Right, the multipass shader effect class has been cut and won't be in the final builds of WPF. If any of it is in the beta, it's just a stub.

MultiInput effects *will* be in the final release, but shouldn't be in the beta.

aL_ wrote:

David Teitlebaum [MSFT] wrote: You can use any of the three filtering methods we now expose (bilinear, nearest neighbor, and the "Fant scaler"). These are selected from the RenderOptions.BitmapScalingMode attached property, and affect the entire subgraph from which they're applied.

sweeet :)

also i vaguely remember you saying that there wasnt any multipass support for pixel shaders? but what about the MultipassShaderEffect Class? is that depricated or something? or am i just wrong about the multipass stuff? :) i noticed that MultipassShaderEffect doesnt have a RegisterPixelShaderSamplerProperty method or any pixelshader(s) property though.. can you elaborate on how that works? :)

Re: WPF 3.5 SP1 Graphics with David Teitlebaum

David Teitlebaum [MSFT] — Sat, 17 May 2008 17:50:53 GMT

In WPF3D we haven't yet added a mechanism to use a custom pixel shader when your 3D object is being rasterized. The new effects are applicable to UIElements -- ie 2D.

That having been said, you could use a our new DX Interop (D3DImage) and do whatever you wanted in 3D, but I gather that's not exactly what you wanted.:P

aL_ wrote:

(yet) another question :) how about pixelshading for 3d models? is that possible somehow? since there is now a pixelshaderwrapper with constants and stuff, the step shouldnt be to long i'd imagine (but what do i know:P)