Comment Feed for Windows Azure: Cloud Computing in Application Services (Charles on Channel 9)

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

Jovialn — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:21:07 GMT

I understand that Azure and Microsoft Server 2008 are complementary technologies. Are there plans to help port code for Windows server 2008 to Azure and vice versa. What will be the issues here and what are the limitations as per current implementation of azure.

The idea being that initially a small company might start out with Azure and rely on its scalability solutions. Eventually the company might want to move to self hosted servers using Windows Server 2008. In that case, developers would prefer the transition to be as easy and bug free as possible. Are such scenarios being considered?

What about providing solutions so that users have a inhouse azure environment e.g. My company decides that we need to maintain the data on our own local servers, then all I need to do is go buy say 20 servers, and then use a framework to create a mini azure environment inhouse. There will be maybe 2 fabric controllers which keep in sync and ensure that there is no single point of failure and beyond that all the remaining machines are maintained by these controllers just as azure is doing currently in data centers. Providing such a solution would allow companies to switch between azure in microsoft datacenter and 'mini azure' with their own servers relatively easier.

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

mcastilho — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:19:51 GMT

There is a nice blog you can follow info on Azure platform

http://www.azurejournal.com

Re: Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

Zhe Yang — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:02:57 GMT

The reason why the current CTP doesn't support XP as a dev environment as well as a workaround to get some partial functionality (development storage but not development fabric) working on XP were discussed in this MSDN forum thread.

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsazure/thread/ad40d420-9bb6-452d-b84c-9928349ab2db

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

sowmyan — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:48:09 GMT

Great information steve !

I am very much excited on this technology. I had registered in www.azure.com and I have installed azure SDK to work on some sample (ASP.NET Hello world sample) but whenever I try to create host service none of the services are availble there. I noticed the below message.

Register for Services*
*Due to pre-release CTP status, you may be temporarilyplaced on a waiting list for certain services.

Also I noticed that, under the "Account" section in the site, I need to put Resource Token ID and need to claim the token. But I haven't recieved any email with that information.

Any body know how I can get host services to work on some samples ?

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

EdSF — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:38:58 GMT

So why the "barrier" of requiring Vista and Win 2008 Srv just to get going with the SDK (including the tools for VS2008!)?

Can't understand why a "platform independent" solution has this barrier...on the dev side at that?

sigh...

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

Alexei Pavlov — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:02:29 GMT

What do I need to smoke to understand "coolness of cloud"?... No, really.

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

getlostyoupest — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:38:19 GMT

why not linking his blog using the azure tech he mentions at the end of his speech?

http://blog.smarx.com/

the editors and posters of channel9 are really lazy basterdz. i kid you not.

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

William Stacey — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:54:02 GMT

Thanks Charles and Steve. Really cool stuff. As it happens, I am looking for hosting for my take on a *witter service with an Astoria backend and a smart client (and SL client in the works after I get better VS-SL support..hint :) Any chance a fellow 9'er with a new social service can get a "token" for the Azur ctp so I can host it?

Re: Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

William Stacey — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:42:20 GMT

Based on http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/John-Shewchuk-and-Dennis-Pilarinos-Inside-NET-Services/
AFAICT, if you need your service hosted inside your own lan, you can use .Net services and leverage some of the other stuff like auth, but keep your code local. So you can pick and choose what you need.

Re: Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

radekg — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:47:29 GMT

Not sure if you understand the idea of Azure but what is the point of having the cloud in your data center? You can deploy win2008 with whatever you need if you want OS in data center.

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

Chris Pietschmann — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:35:22 GMT

I'm not sure I like the idea of having Microsoft host all of my "cloud" apps with Azure. Will I be able to host my own instance of the Azure platform in my own data center, if I want??

Re: Steve Marx: Windows Azure for Developers

Eric Lin — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:33:52 GMT

It makes the programmable web a reality. let's start to get developer to write more and more reusable components on it.