Posted By: scobleizer | Oct 18th, 2005 @ 1:40 PM
Jeffrey Snover has been on Channel 9 before talking about Monad. That was a popular video so we thought we'd have him back on Channel 9 to give us some more thoughts on Monad. You can read more on the Monad blog and there's a Monad Wiki that you can participate on too. Jeffrey is one of the most energetic architects you'll meet.
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Hmm...the video is upside down and all green when it streams at 111kbps. When the connection is happy and at 216 kbps it all looks ok.
Stream works fine here.

Very inspiring video!

Here's a 11 minute clip (from 33m to 44m) that really hit me.
http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=127819&pvrid=135
Windows Management INFRASTRACTURE? Really? Big Smile
staceyw
staceyw
Before C# there was darkness...
"Hmm...the video is upside down and all green when it streams at 111kbps."

Dude, I get that all the time.  About 50%.  Was starting to think I was the only one.

What a fascinating discussion.  I personally have been following Monad from the very beginning and have found it to be quite an awsome technology.  The only thing I would have to ask is "when will I get IntelliSense on the command line?"  I have been so spoiled using IntelliSense and some other utilities like VisualAssist when programming that I just feel empty when I am without tools like that.

staceyw wrote:
"Hmm...the video is upside down and all green when it streams at 111kbps."

Dude, I get that all the time.  About 50%.  Was starting to think I was the only one.


No you're not. I had it a lot just after I upgraded from Media Player 9 to a pre-release of 10. I am not entirely sure if that had anything to do with it but after I got the final release of 10 it didn't happen that often anymore and 9 never gave me any trouble.

Occasionally it still flips into upside-down-green-mode but typically only for a couple of seconds so it seems something did get better along the upgrade path. The IP stack video still gave me a couple of these glitches, it may be a combination of a bug and lack of bandwidth. Then again, I can only remember experiencing this with Channel9 videos. A codec related problem perhaps?

This Monad video didn't give me any trouble at all, it was perfect.

I’m was surprised to hear that Monad has generated so much interest, yet at the same time the attention is so germane. As far as I know the semantics of the command line haven’t changed much since Doug McIlroy came up with the pipe, yet I know of no gifted programmer or admin who doesn’t appreciate the command line. MSH is one of the most exciting technologies to emerge over the last year and it’s one of only two Microsoft betas I’ve ever downloaded and used. I don’t hear people ranting about it on too many forums so I assume it’s kind of a silent (serious) majority thing. I think it's going to be a wonderful surprise for so many IT pros out there.


Ace work Jeffery!

 
In this video, and one of his previous ones, Jeffery talks about economics, he also mentions Jim Hugunin’s Iron Python project (the other beta I’ve downloaded and used). Now, Jim’s work is open source, open source is a hot topic a lot of figures comment on, and open source has an interesting economic aspect that people debate (and companies like Apple and Google use to great commercial advantage). I’d love to hear Jeffrey’s views on open source; I believe he’d have something interesting to say.

 
Go on Scoble, can you ask when you go back to do the team tour? Please?

 
Does everyone else love these interviews with people like Ward C. and Jeffery as much as I do? I love it when the interviewee is happy to go off on interesting tangents.

staceyw
staceyw
Before C# there was darkness...
" (and companies like Apple and Google use to great commercial advantage). "

Is Apple's OS open source?  How about Google?
Microsoft should rename the Nomad project from "MSH" Microsoft SHell" to "MOSH" Microsoft Object SHell

so we would have
csh (unix)
zsh (unix)
bash (unix)
mosh (msft)

Heston