Shell Team - Exploring and Using Windows Vista | scobleizer

Manip

Search -- Does it support a wider range of queries, such as Google's minus (-) or quotations (" ") or some other Microsoft home-grown format for getting exactly what you want?

I have also always wanted to be able to do sub-searches. So you get some search results and then search within just those results, like this:

cat = cat.doc; hat.txt; cats and such.html
ball = cat and such.html

The reason is that you can search for "cat ball" but then that will return 'cat' and 'ball' results or "cat ball", but what if it isn't one expression but you just wanted a sub-set of the documents that contained 'cat'? Where the sub-set of 'cat' also contain 'ball'?

-- I don't know if I explained that well at all.... I might edit this a bit... Sad

creamhackered
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Pretty neat video, great to see they dive straight into the demos Smiley

BrandonFurtwangler

that keyboard in the background looks kinda interesting. Any idea what make/model it is?

BHpaddock

Manip wrote:
Search -- Does it support a wider range of queries, such as Google's minus (-) or quotations (" ") or some other Microsoft home-grown format for getting exactly what you want?

I think they're supporting the same or similar syntax to what the current version of Windows Desktop Search uses for Advanced Query Syntax. Vista uses our indexer but the Shell team is kind of doing their own thing... So I can't say for sure.

But I believe you should be able to say "kind:email" or "To:John Smith"

And stuff like that.

mycroft

Some nice demos there. Would have preferred the evangelist not being there though, feels very fake when somebodys asking questions to point out what marketing wants you to know. Not very Channel 9 like IMO. Very cool stuff though.

scobleizer
I'm the video guy

mycroft: evangelists are NOT marketing.

Catherine is a hard core C++ programmer. She knows more about development than most people I know.

She also knows more about Windows Vista than most people who work on the team know about it.

I wanted her along so that we'd cover the depth of what's going on here.

Evangelism is about working with developers to help them build software for the next version. Most evangelists I work with are very good software developers.

If anything, I'm the one who isn't technical.

mycroft

Fair enough, I stand corrected, didn't mean to question her technical prowess. Maybe I just don't like the style of interview quite so much.

Has there been any mention of the sidebar anywhere yet or was that taken out entirely? Also, anyone know if there will be a text box on the taskbar for search like in Windows Desktop Search? It's nice to be able to search without opening a new window up.

adrien

Great video, thanks.

I was wondering how this links up with the WINFS ?
The shell team did not mention it but the fonctionnalities are pretty close to it , aren't they?
Is it based on winfs ?

mycroft

adrien wrote:
Great video, thanks.

I was wondering how this links up with the WINFS ?
The shell team did not mention it but the fonctionnalities are pretty close to it , aren't they?
Is it based on winfs ?

WinFS won't be in Vista unfortunately, but it's not needed for the search functionality anyway. Will be interesting to see how they integrate WinFS features into Explorer when it does arrive.