Steve Cellini - Meet the PDC Planning Team | scobleizer

PerfectPhase
"This is not war, this is pest control!" - Dalek to Cyberman

Intreasting that they are pitching more talks at the 400 level. Was just watching .NET show and this comment summs up what I would really like to see

"Yes, and I think that's a first lesson is that in MSDN now, we explain here's how to raise an event, here's how to use the APIs, but we don't have articles on when to raise events, what events should you have, what should the contents be, where to log them, when to think about what goes in the event log, what's tracing, what's debugging? People are just left on their own to sort it out."

Wish I was going, hope all the talks are posted online again, would pay for access to them!

Stephen.

ZippyV
Fired Up

Orbit86 wrote:
first post woohooooooooooooooo

Don't post this kind of sh!t

bonk
Ich bin der Wurstfachverkäuferin !

PerfectPhase wrote:
... I would pay for access to them!

sshhhhh .... ! Smiley

PeterAce

You hit the point I wanted to ask thoughs in the know at Channel9 - How much of the PDC sessions and will be webcasted/streamed?

One thing that I was amazied by in the last two years was that ATI (yes the graphics card company) have used Microsoft's Media Services/Producer to build a web-presentation/webcasts with the session slides (in powerpoint format) that automatically roleover to the video stream of the presentations. This allowed people who couldn't attend GDC (Gamers Developers Conference) to not miss the valuable content.

Have previous years PDC's leveraged the web to have streaming webcasts of the sessions? If so where are the URLs so I can review them?

Will this years PDC have these web-presentation/webcasts (so people who can't attend can see some content?)

scellini
PDC05: Developer Powered

Bonk - thanks for the (great) questions. The short answer: We've been thinking alot about those specific topics. At the PDC we'll talk about the best paths for existing unmanaged apps and new managed apps, regarding how to take advantage of Longhorn, or "Light Up" on Longhorn, as we put it. This will be new information (as compared to PDC03). We will not be saying that you need to rewrite everything in managed code, in particular.

Regarding your last question, re: Avalon & Multimedia - I'll ask someone to follow up on this thread with some guidance.

Thanks - see you in LA?!?

bonk
Ich bin der Wurstfachverkäuferin !

Steve,

A great percentage of softwarecompanies out there that do applications for windows have mainly an unmanaged win32 codebase.
I think a very important topics related to Longhorn for the PDC is how their developers can get ready for Longhorn and WinFX. I know several softwarecompanies (including myself) who currently look into that topic. Questions like this are in our focus:

What do we need to to with our codebase to get "Longhorn ready"? Should we port everything to .net now? ( ) Should we continue on the unmanaged road? What are best practises for combining those two worlds (win32/MFC and WinFX)?
What approaches are there to give our existing win32/MFC applications an avalon GUI? How can we achieve that with the least effort and what is the suggested approach?
What possibilities are there to code for Longhorn with the win32 API? What enhancement of the win32 API for Longhorn will there be and what are best practises to use them?

I am aware of the fact that there have been attempts to answer all of the above questions (PDC 2003 and some blogposts). But its partly outdated and there is much more left to know. So thats what I would like to see at the PDC.

Also I am very intereted in how to leverage Avalon for Multimedia authoring applications like video/audio editing tools or imaging applications. Generally software that creates or modifies Media. Am I going to use Avalon just for the GUI and for displaying the media or could I maybe use Avalon types to modify the media? Maybe I should rather have some unmanaged dlls that do the hard work?

bonk
Ich bin der Wurstfachverkäuferin !

scellini wrote:
Regarding your last question, re: Avalon & Multimedia - I'll ask someone to follow up on this thread with some guidance.

That'd be really great . I can provide you with a lot more indepth issues, open questions and problems we (I) ran into - if needed Smiley

scellini wrote:
Thanks - see you in LA?!?

Well that's up to you (whether you will find my "blogmywaytothepdc"-article worthy) and up to me (whether my creativity will suffice). I sure start to long for L.A. ...

P.S. Just curoius (looking at your avatar) - does there already a xaml exist internally for that "PDC logo" ?

Shmuelpro

Steve, since Bonk already brought the subject up I was wondering if you will be introducing Managed DirectShow at the PDC or is that supposed to come later?
Thanks
Shmuel

bonk
Ich bin der Wurstfachverkäuferin !

Shmuelpro wrote:
Steve, since Bonk already brought the subject up I was wondering if you will be introducing Managed DirectShow at the PDC or is that supposed to come later?
Thanks
Shmuel

I was told by tom miller on #manageddx on efnet that there probally wont ever be a a managed directshow. To my understanding that wouldn't really make sense. Writing filters in .net is not a good idea. They are however looking into alternatives (I heared).

EDIT: Since directshow is COM you can however use the interfaces (almost) without any pain in .NET. Also there are some projects that try to wrap them for .net.