10-4 Episode 2: Welcome to Visual Studio 2010
- Posted: Dec 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM
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Happy Holidays, everybody! First of all, thanks to everybody who helped get the word out on the launch of this new show on Channel 9 by blogging, tweeting, or spreading the word using other ways. There is no doubt in our minds that the launch of this new show wouldn’t have been nearly as successful without all of you!
In this second episode of 10-4, we’ll take a very high-level look at Visual Studio 2010. We’ll discuss what types of features you can expect to see in Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4.0 depending on what type of developer you are. And lastly we’ll go ahead and dive into a revised area of Visual Studio: the Start Page. The Start Page in Visual Studio 2010 has been revised to be XAML-based and allows full customization.
In future episodes we’ll dive more deeply into the technical underpinnings of Visual Studio 2010 and the .NET Framework 4.0, but for this second episode we want to make sure everybody gains an understanding of what different areas are being focused in Visual
Studio 2010. While an overview is given, there is only so much time and so many features we can talk about. So if you don't see something mentioned, don't worry as we have a lot more information to dive into in the coming weeks and months.
For more 10-4 episodes, be sure to visit:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/10-4/
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Yeah, my worry when I had the slides was the issue you brought up exactly. These first two videos have intentially been really high level to "set the stage" for the rest of the videos (we will be doing these all the way until launch). I'll make sure to pass this feedback on to the other guys as well.
Ideally, in our perfect world, we want very little times on slides (I would like my future videos to have only a single slide that simply says what will be shown). 99% content FTW
Thanks again!
I hadn't thought of that option. Though you need to remember that XAML (not XML) is the basis of WPF and Visual Studio is starting to adopt WPF more and more itself as the presentation framework to use.
. Thanks for watching!
Here are some questions mrares: I think creating a new tab is the easy part (where a button works). However, once the new tab is created, how would you design a new designer-driven experience that allows the user to easily customize the content of that new tab itself. For instance, displaying different choices in that tab, having each choice have a different "content" element which could be text, hyperlinks, another list, an embedded video, a set of embedded videos, etc.
This is "easily" done with XAML as the basis of the presentation framework, and is a model already adopted and used in new client apps leveraging WPF. And, with it being XAML-based, the limit is more your imagination rather than the implementation of the designer tool (like the dialog-driven experience that might grow from a button).
If you have some more thoughts on the subject, I would LOVE to hear them and pass them along to the team
I agree with Jason on this one. While it does require that you dig into XAML, what that means is that you have an amazingly flexible environment to work with. If you simply had a "Create tab" button then it wouldn't be nearly as flexible. And even for those of us who aren't XAML experts or don't have the time to invest in building a rockin' start page, I'm excited by the possibility of people creating their own unique start pages and sharing them with the community. Codeplex here we come!
Brian
2.) I also think that there should be an easier way to customize the start page. For a classical Linux user who likes modifying his configuration files with vi and compiling old C code with gcc using the command line and debugging the code with massive use of printf and when sitting in front of windows they spend half an hour for finding the command line options for winzip instead of simply double clicking the file this will be absolutely fine, but most users use Visual Studio because they do not want to do that stuff. For Web Developers this should be no problem, but for simple Windows Application designers like me (many of my applications have only a close button and an exception log) WPF is completely new. I agree it is also not good if you only have a GUI and nearly no options. I think the best way is a GUI that allows you to customize the most important features that generate XAML code like it is done in Access. You can do much by simply clicking without spending weeks to learn it and if you want to code something you can do it as well like editing a query in SQL etc.
So you'll have a visual design surface to add new components. However, this still won't be perfect for basic edits. However, I'd expect that developers will create new start pages with their own components and share them via the community. So, often your custimization will simply be downloading someone else's start page and applying it to your own environment.
Hi Jason,
The biggest thing that jumped out at me is the fact you are running XP.. What gives?? Windows 7 is SICK! I am sure you have the ability to get a copy don't you?
I prefer hearing from product developers on the new features. I think the job of a web based evangelist at microsoft is to grease the wheels and get the demos and interviews going in that regard.
Think what Rory, Charles, et al used to do. (and now do to a lesser extent.)
i'm just a beginner, but i'm intrerested in it.
I've been thinking the "Recent Projects" should be like "Favorites" in your browser. To be able to create groups, and manage solution files like favorites would help a lot.
Would this be doable in the "Sky's the limit" comment you made?
Sorry!
What is Passwords for VS2010CTP?
Please Help !
Oh, I am still using visual studio 2003. And I am afriad I am far left behind.
See you folks!
Yep - way too much yack and not enough "gee look at this..."
What on earth is FTW?
And until the memory of today fades and I succumb to yet another outdated and worthless link in the Visual Studio start page,
Regards,
Dale
2010? Why would anyone use it; 2008 is such junk is is remarkable.
It is Microsoft. The whole orginization has gone to hell!
Will Mobile Web Form be part of VS2010?
If not, what will be available for us to develop mobile web applications?
Thank you
I can't see the video of any part....i've got installed Silverlight ....wha's the problem?
Hi. I ve watched all 23 Episodes of videos. They r great n give very good insight of VS2010 or what can we expect in VS2010.
I liked the presentation n information.
But
Video Quality was not so good
Video resolution should have been better .
Hope in further shows or Series2 (if any ) Video Quality would be taken care of
Attention all people associated with Microsoft and it's entire family of programming languages!!!
Ready?
STOP SAYING "we’ll GO AHEAD and" OR "I'm going to GO AHEAD and..." or "Let's just GO AHEAD and..."
Seriously, JUST STOP IT NOW.
Seriously, STOP!!!
STOP
Does VS2010 retain the feature where some panes slide out and just stay there inexplicably? I like how when I load a project in 2005/8, some random pane just comes barfing out into the screen and won't go away unless I pin it and then unpin it. This can also be triggered by random other events duing build and debug. It's almost like VS is insecure in itself and just wants me to use some of it's panes once in a while to validate it emotionally.
Better still is how when I have a solution with ~75 projects, it expands them all by default. I heard this got fixed, so that'll be nice.
(last one) what about how I can have the form designer open, click on a control, then slide out the properties pane only to have it showing me the properties of some file or something OTHER than the control I clicked on, then when I click on the control again it loads the properties correctly and then immediately hides the properties pane. Pretty sweet.
Seriously though, I am annoyed most of all that microsoft would go launching ahead with all these new features that will probably not get enough use to justify their presence, while at the same time passing over serious and obvious productivity problems with the UI that have persisted from VS2003. Each new release seems to slow down in direct proportion to the level of "shiny" you guys keep adding. Now when I ask the IDE to close, it just sits there not using significant network or CPU resources for about 15 seconds, then closes... man, seriously? Stop adding "shiny" and start adding "fast."
/rant
that was the first thing that caught my eye as well. At least a vista OS is to be expected. A bit of an oops in my opinion as MS partner.
OT: looking forward to this new platform. the part on the XAML issue. As a developer working on a developer platform it is a must to learn XAML (pitty because there is already so much you need to know), but going forward that should not be a problem but an esset in the future i guess.
Ok, Irony here...
I got to this video via a link on the vs2008 Start Page.
So,
I got to this useless video, about a useless topic from the same useless feature - in the previous product.
My recommendation: just stay away from Start Pages -- and videos about Start Pages (linked from Start Pages).
等待 vs 2010
I find it really interesting that your showing VS 2010 with Windows XP. That speaks volumes about your confidence with current releases of windows.
Awesome!!!
Man, hopefully you guys have developed thick skins by now! This is a rough crowd. I upgraded our two copies of VS2005 pro to VS2008 pro, and I have to admit 2008 is much slower that 2005. Now with 2010 staring us in the face, I don't know what to do. I've got a good working copy of win7 RC on a laptop, along with Ubuntu linux, WINXP Pro (which is what I depend on), and Vista for supporting the few poor souls who are using that. I think MS needs to take a step back and look at what they are doing: Making their products look better, but not delivering a better product. People can see through that, people that matter. I think the flopdoption of Vista by business is a clear example. It is the IBM PCjr of the 21st century. I heartily concur that the videos which I have watched are too much talk, not enough substance.
easy deployment, yea right, as if it's easy to find a .net supporting host to deploy aspx to.
That is the main reason I dropped this stuff because I couldn't find a host to practice on.
Also this info is so general it seemed useless to me, sorry just callin it like I see it.
Hmmmm. The bottom "Comment on Post" button doesn't work as well as the top one.
Well, I liked the video, the video presentation and the content. It really helps when I get previews of stuff. Really, the VS 2005,8 Start Page leaves a lot to be desired. This looks like quite an improvement.
More hostiles around here than in Monument Valley. I dunno. I adapt rather than want everything to adapt to me.
Enjoy, Miguelito
Awesome ...loking fwd to use this BABY 10
Perfect
Visual Studio 2010 but you are still on XP. Will you upgrade to Windows 7??
I've had VSTS 2010 BETA for a couple of Months. Can you recommend some laptops and processing requirements?
thanks
hi JasonOlson,
Can you please give me the differences between visual studio 2008 and 2010 in aspects of designing, development and testing...
I would be looking for your feedback...
please contact me on bmmkumar@yahoo.co.in
To tell you the truth, I haven't used Visual Studio, but after watching the video, it made me want to learn and use it! Thanks!
<a href="http://lifeuk.info/blog/">James A.</a>
g8.....work. Thanks for this video information.
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