Comment Feed for 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0 (10-4 on Channel 9)

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

sarin — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:21:54 GMT

Dull and irrelevant.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Visionsoft — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:26:32 GMT

Very casual and good explanation. I like it! Was just wondering which tool do you use to capture screen video with webcam view embedded.

Re: Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

rodttu02 — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:25:24 GMT

I can't believe people are dogging the editing of the film. I thought the content was great and that is all that really matters to me. I could care less if it were in black and white. Keep putting good content in these videos and all is well with me.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Morten Joergensen — Tue, 26 May 2009 07:32:29 GMT

Great clip guys :)

One thing that really kinda ruine the vidoes.. Is that we HAVE to see u :D Not that your are ugly and such.. But your kinda in the way when trying to see what happens..

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Joseph Ballan — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:41:36 GMT

Thanks a lot, nice tips.
now I am writing the second version of my new book. ASP.NET & XML Web Services technology(Net Framework 4.0).
this book is for student in the height school who are studing Software Engineering. your tips help me.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

ken Payson — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:53:38 GMT

I have a question. I have a list of linkbuttons inside a repeater. The links when click execute saved searches in my app. The links have a command argument which is the savedSearchId. I would like to be able to add new saved searches from the client client using javascript. The problem is that the command argument is stored in ViewState which cannot be modified in javascript. I can hack around this problem but its messy.

My question is, instead of using the command argument, will I be able to dynamically create the ClientIds to have the savedSearchId suffixed at the end. Will I then be able to get this information out in the OnItemCommand event handler?

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

jinx101 — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:22:29 GMT

I'm glad to hear ASP.Net forms is alive and well. I enjoy the forms paridigm (I also dislike changing paradigms every few years when the end result of the software produced is the same... it's nice knowing that what you're building today can be continued tomorrow without having to make a drastic transition). I'm excited about the ClientID changes. That would have been very handy in the past a few times and will give me a good oportunity to streamline some things we've done in the past.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Matthew M. Osborn — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:06:15 GMT

QA's Post on this Feature.
http://blog.osbornm.com/archive/2009/01/06/asp.net-4.0-clientid-overview-again.aspx

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Hafiz Muhammad Haroon Ibrahim — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:28:17 GMT

Good presentation on ClienID features in VS2010.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Vaclav Elias — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:53:35 GMT

Thank you, very nice, however it should have been there since beginning of ASP.NET :-)

Re: Re: Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Axel Rietschin — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:42:03 GMT

The point is that it gives the world the distinctive impression that Microsoft's own devs are still running XP, and are planning to do so for a long time since they present their upcoming 2010 software on it. Apparently Episode IV was made on Vista a last.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

LogicLabs — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:38:40 GMT

Is MS struggling to afford the heating bill? :-)

Re: Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Erik Porter — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:17:14 GMT

Agreed. Having more control over ClientID is super awesome. Very much looking forward to it! I think we could cut out 1/3 of the html on Channel 9 with that feature alone. That's probably a bit of an exaggerated guess, but you get the idea.

If you need/want complete control over the form and markup, there's always that other ASP.NET product. :)

Re: Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Erik Porter — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:14:02 GMT

All videos on Channel 9 are downloadable. Click on the "Downloads" link up above to see links to the different formats.

Re: Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Barry Andrew — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:03:37 GMT

Awesome video. Im struggling in my head though getting round this ID thing. btw im from a win forms bg and am somewhat new to asp.net.

Are we saying that you can use this clientID as a replacement for using javascript to get the clientID?

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

WithInTheState — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:38:40 GMT

To: JonathanCarter

I know the video is done in Silverlight. Working for a State Agency, all videos are blocked.

Can you make your videos downloadable?

Re: Re: Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Vitor Canova Weingaertner — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:34:17 GMT

Thank's Brian, and thank's too Duncan. I can embed now.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

thebeebs — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:59:02 GMT

How would this sort of thing handle a user control that contained a drop downlist which had it's Id set to static, that was then put on the page twice?

Would it throw an error or is it the developers responsibility to ensure that this dosen't happen.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Mathieu Roseboom — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:28:42 GMT

Good presentation. Very clear and good to understand!

Keep up the good work.

Re: Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Jonathan Carter — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:56:04 GMT

Nice to see you like the predictable feature. The tool I'm using is called the IE Developer Toolbar, and it's awesome :)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?familyid=E59C3964-672D-4511-BB3E-2D5E1DB91038&displaylang=en

Re: Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Jonathan Carter — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:54:58 GMT

I'm from Florida, so it's always cold for me :)

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

stevo_ — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:06:49 GMT

I share the 'new feature == being able to do id="blah"', but I also understand why its so, and in some ways I think when webforms was being designed, ms didn't have much of a clue about what developers really wanted, ms was still very much - trust us guys you'll love our idea.. and as expected some did and bought well into it, but there was tons still that still wanted to be in control.. I think webforms is one technology that needs a completely new rethink from scratch, but that just won't happen.. nor do I care since I don't really use it.. for me actually I find asp.net and in general System.Web, are a pretty messy assembly but include so much functionality that I wouldn't dare want to try replace.. anyway, good job on enabling this- I know its one of them features webforms people sometimes really want.. although its generally much less about ids, and more about field names and controlling form targets in a better way.. (for interop with processing urls that you don't control).

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Waddle — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:18:22 GMT

Wouaou ! An 18 minutes video for a feature that should be built-in for 5 years now. You guys are very slow...
What I guess is that you realized that free libs will always be better than anything you could ever made. So if you wanna use them (jQuery and Co), you must autorize the developpers to set the client ID.

I don't congratulate you. You're desining your evolutions to save your plateform and not to bring innovation or to make the developper work easy.

When you dont want to allow integration of third party products, you close your API (clientID unsetable, and client id generated), but when you realize that your are 5 years late on third party libs, you allow integration to save your plateform.

happy new year,

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

Vinit Yadav — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:38:38 GMT

Up to half of the video I'm not much impressed with the ClientID, but when it comes to the List I jumped of my chair. I bang my head when I need to access list from javascript, and finally a relief. By the way, can anyone tell me what is the name of the tool at the bottom. I haven't found such tool in IE6.

Re: 10-4 Episode 3: ASP.NET WebForms 4.0

rhm — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:34:38 GMT

Was it really cold the day you were recording this? :)