Chris Anderson - Talking shop about Avalon | Going Deep

El Bruno
El Bruno

Ohhh come on ..

THIS IS GREAT !!! I've the CTP of Avalon and Indigo ... a lot of reading stuff ... but this 10 mins are INCREDIBLES !!!

Bye from Spain
el Bruno

spigger88

Great info. Anyone know where to find that Longhorn notepad they were talking about?

ricodued

Already looked into it. VERY controversial stuff.

Viewer discretion is advised: http://neopoleon.com/blog/posts/12904.aspx

Smiley

-rico

AQ
One does not thank logic

Nice modular design...I guess that's what makes pythalon possible...

I haven't tried the ctp yet and will probs wait for beta1. But am finding most effects now are written as, well .fx files. HLSL and all that.

Wwhat's the thinking behind harnessing the gpu in avalon and will i be able to use my .fx routines in winforms ui?

aq

androidi

ricodued wrote:
Already looked into it. VERY controversial stuff.

Viewer discretion is advised: http://neopoleon.com/blog/posts/12904.aspx

That's great! I also love what the Office team is doing according to one of the comments.

Bryce Milton wrote:

This is really going to come as a shock to the Office Notepad 2005 team! They've been quietly preparing to release a Notepad upgrade that adds some nifty features that appear to be missing from Notepad.Next

I wonder does that also have Intellisense when having code file opened (incase you do not have VS installed)..

Dr. Shim
Inaniloquent monomathical people inlapidate me.

With the new version of Notepad, I can't see how I'll ever use another operating system again. Ever. Avalon had me nearly convinced, but this... This is major. I think I'll just convert any Linux testing machines I'll get in the future, into a distributed Notepad Enterprise Team Server 2006 cluster. Drop shadow. Wow. Question: How can I get paragraph breaks in Opera?

JamesC

I wonder how hard it was to port Avalon to XP. Talk about a huge change in requirements!

figuerres
???

the 64,000,000 question I have is:

where is the new drop that works with the current VS 2005 build??

I can't run 2 different versions of the framework with on pc and i really don't want to vpc vs and avalon so I'm stuck till they drop a new package.

and I know I'm not the only one in that boat!

bonk
Ich bin der Wurstfachverkäuferin !

GREAT ! THATS THE KIND OF INFO I WANT !
(ooops CapsLock)
No seriously - I want more like this ! Please do "sit down with a bunch of teampeople and go through each one of these" and film it and put it on channel 9.
Those kind of infos on what happens under the hood (of longhorn) is really hard to find and it gives me sleeples nights sometimes (well maybe also because I was told to do some research on it ...)

I do have a question about this video:

Chris showed that direct3d/user32 layer. As we know there is WGF wich is supposed to replaces direct3d in longhorn and there is LDDM (Longhorn Display Driver Model) and the XPDDM (XP Display Diver Model).
Also there are 4 tiers in Aero: "Classic" and "To Go" will run with the XPDDM and the two Aero Tiers will run with the LDDM. What tier is going to be able to run depends on the hardware.

I am trying to extend that chart Chris made with those above mentioned elements. So based on what Hardware and what OS (windowsXP vs Longhorn) Avalon runs on, the direct3d/user32 Layer (and the driver layer directly below it) needs to be drawn diffrently. The question is how ....

download longhorn_renderpipe.vsd (Visio 2003 - 170 KB) if you want to do something with it
sorry if this chart is toally wrong ....