Everything you wanted to know about VC++ deployment but were afraid to ask | Going Deep

sakisp
C/C++ and a cup of coffee...

Interesting but overcomplicated guidelines that nobody knows, reads or follows.
Thanks anyway Smiley

Charles
Welcome Change

sakisp wrote:
Interesting but overcomplicated guidelines that nobody knows, reads or follows.
Thanks anyway

Interesting point of view. I don't agree, however. Follow these guidelines! They will save you from much grief... Smiley

C

sakisp
C/C++ and a cup of coffee...

Charles wrote:
Interesting point of view. I don't agree, however. Follow these guidelines! They will save you from much grief...

I do that Charles whenever is possible, but I was not talking about me.
Most of the software industry "big-names" (not to mention 99% of shareware vendors), ignore these guidelines when designing their products deployment.

graboy
graboy

Sorry but you've managed to make the process of distributing .dlls harder and less reliable than it ever has been.

(SXS will likely join the registry and UAC in the legendary "it sounded good on paper" pile.)

odujosh
Need Microsoft SUX now!

sakisp wrote:

Charles wrote: Interesting point of view. I don't agree, however. Follow these guidelines! They will save you from much grief...

I do that Charles whenever is possible, but I was not talking about me.
Most of the software industry "big-names" (not to mention 99% of shareware vendors), ignore these guidelines when designing their products deployment.

Wow you must be a busy guy working with so many companies to make such generalizations. So do you hop companies every week. Or are you making something up to have a point. I vote for the latter.

giovanni
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Just out of curiosity, what approach deos Mac OS X uses (I know they don't have dlls, but they still heave lilbraries, etc.)?

Do they link everything in the binaries? How are updates taken care of in that case?

FluffyDevilBunny
GO GO GADGET COMPILER!

MacOS does use dlls or sos. It gives the appearance that they don't exist because the application you are clicking on is actually a directory with an extension of .app. Everything the application depends on is in the directory so when you drag it around places, everything goes with it. As for shared dlls, they are stored in the library directory. The application contains a manifest that tells it which libraries it relies on. Its all very simple.

DouglasH
Just Causual

FluffyDevilBunny wrote:
MacOS does use dlls or sos. It gives the appearance that they don't exist because the application you are clicking on is actually a directory with an extension of .app. Everything the application depends on is in the directory so when you drag it around places, everything goes with it. As for shared dlls, they are stored in the library directory. The application contains a manifest that tells it which libraries it relies on. Its all very simple.

so in theory MacOS can still suffer from dll hell unless the library directory stores multiple versions of the Library.

Douglash

giovanni
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FluffyDevilBunny wrote:
MacOS does use dlls or sos. It gives the appearance that they don't exist because the application you are clicking on is actually a directory with an extension of .app. Everything the application depends on is in the directory so when you drag it around places, everything goes with it. As for shared dlls, they are stored in the library directory. The application contains a manifest that tells it which libraries it relies on. Its all very simple.

Well, it does not look substantially different from Windows...