Inside .NET 4: Meet the BCL Team

The Discussion

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  These are some of my favorite people, hope there is stuff on code-contracts in the interview, downloading....

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  Charles,

  Wow, what an awesome interview.  It was nice to see the age variance of people on the BCL team.  The covariance and contravariance, I jumped out of my chair and scared the person in the next office when I heard this.  I now know what it's called, and thank the BCL team for solving this.  It has been such a pain point for me.

  The only thing I would add is i wish the BCL team kept more pace with the Windows team in terms of feature support.

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  Hey guys, keep up the good work! 

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  So happy to see Directory.EnumerateFiles in the .NET 4.0 BCL!  Many thanks!

  By the way, you really should add BigInteger overloads to the arithmetic LINQ extension methods in .NET 4.0.  System.Numerics.Extensions?

  Also, I don't see the Complex type in System.Numerics in Beta 1.  Is it slated to be added in a later beta?

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  great stuff

  was the codeplex site launched or was it going to be launched? a link would be great

  also w00t for pex and chess mentions will those make it to the framework someday do you think? BCL4 seems slightly optimistic but maybe BCL5?

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  I wish they would isolate the Microsoft Win32-specific libraries from the OS-agnostic libraries.  Core CLR/Silverlight is a good start, but it would be nice if this were done in the Full and Client CLR as well.  That way you can have Microsoft.WinXP.*, Microsoft.Win2003.*, Microsoft.WinVista.*, Microsoft.Win2008, Microsoft.Win7.*, and Microsoft.Win2008R2.* libraries with managed code wrappers to native OS calls specific to particular Windows versions.  A bit like what the Mono folks did for their OS-specific extensions.  But come up with a better naming convention than I did; mine is merely illustrative and not recommended.

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  Complex didn't make it in Beta 1 but it should be in the next preview release.

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  We're planning to launch the CodePlex site later this summer.  Keep an eye on the BCL team blog for the launch announcement.

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  Hi Charles, I can't hear clearly who they are and what their roles, either they spoke too soft or too fast. Sorry, I'm not a native speaker in English. I think it's better to have them written-tagged.

  I like about what being said by someone (the guy with glasses next to Brian Grunkemeyer) about the importance of product feedback through Connect. I think feedback is one of the most important basic principle in engineering, and of course for helping evolving the product. BTW, do they use SQM (Software Quality Metric) in tracking feedback on API usage?

  Thanks for this!

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  Hey Maximilian, here's my educated guess at names.

  • Mellita Anderson, PM
    http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2009/02/23/preview-of-code-contract-tools-now-available-melitta-andersen.aspx
  • Brian Grunkemeyer, Dev
    http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2006/10/17/clr-behavior-on-outofmemoryexceptions-brian-grunkemeyer.aspx
  • Matt Ellis, Dev
    http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2007/07/19/customizing-the-behavior-of-system-diagnostics-debug-assert-matt-ellis.aspx
  • ? Josh Regan, Dev
  • Justin Van Patten, PM
    http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2008/05/21/net-framework-client-profile-justin-van-patten.aspx
  • Kim Hamilton, Dev
    http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2009/02/19/in-depth-how-net-managed-services-interact-with-the-servicecontrolmanager-scm-kim-hamilton.aspx
  • ? Matt Gregg, Test
  • Katy King, Test
    http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2005/04/06/405993.aspx

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  Your ?'s should be Josh Free (http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2007/05/31/string-compare-string-equals-josh-free.aspx) and Matthew Greig (http://blogs.msdn.com/bclteam/archive/2007/05/29/bcl-refresher-floating-point-types-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-inbar-gazit-matthew-greig.aspx).

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  The interviewees are:

  Josh Free
  Brian Grunkemeyer
  Matt Ellis
  Justin Van Patten
  Melitta Andersen
  Matthew Greig
  Kim Hamilton
  Katy King

   

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  Thanks all for the details! I appreciate it.

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  oh i have another question, will [blend] Behaviors make it into the bcl? they are super useful and i really think they belong there

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  Great video! Do more of these. It was really informative to see what kinds of things the team is looking forward to and get some insight on the future of .NET  (IE. PEX and Code Contracts!).