Internet Explorer 7: The Browser. The Team. The Tour. Part 4

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The tour continues...

In this final installment of the IE Team Tour we grab Eric Lawrence, Program Manager and Katya Sedova, Lead Test Engineer to talk about networking including discussions about the two connection limit, security and IDN. It seems like you always learn something new when you talk to Eric and Katya.

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    Rowan
    Out of 4 different videos you didn't talk to anyone about HTML and CSS?
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    Charles
    Remember this?

    This was a random tour of the IE team's building and we talked to folks who were around as it happened... Some of the people you met in this tour do in fact work on HTML and CSS...

    Did you watch all of the videos? Smiley

    C
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    Rowan
    I've seen all the videos related to IE now.

    I couldn't sit through that CSS video you linked to because I just don't share the same level of excitement about a box that behaves as you would expect it to in any normal browser.

    It wouldn't have hurt to walk into Chris Wilson's office to have a chat about both (X)HTML and CSS improvements, that's the only thing I care about with IE afterall.

    These videos were otherwise great though, you managed to cover a huge range of topics and we have a better idea of who's working on IE.
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    DMassy
    Rowan wrote:
    I've seen all the videos related to IE now.

    I couldn't sit through that CSS video you linked to because I just don't share the same level of excitement about a box that behaves as you would expect it to in any normal browser.

    It wouldn't have hurt to walk into Chris Wilson's office to have a chat about both (X)HTML and CSS improvements, that's the only thing I care about with IE afterall.

    These videos were otherwise great though, you managed to cover a huge range of topics and we have a better idea of who's working on IE.


    Rowan,
    What is it that you want to ask Chris that hasn't already been addressed more than a few times on the team blog?

    The answers from the team on this have been very consistent over the last year or so and I touched on some of the CSS work at the start of the first video. We know there's more work to be done for CSS in particular and fully expect to get to it in future versions. The feedback you give us really helps us prioritise the work ahead.

    We can certainly try and get Chris the next time the Ch9 camera comes over.

    Thanks
    -Dave
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    littleguru
    Great videos Charles and Dave. I liked them a lot! It's always great to see the people behind an application.
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    Rowan
    DMassy wrote:
    that hasn't already been addressed more than a few times on the team blog?


    Well I think everything including UI, customisability, RSS, Favourites, Security, etc, had been covered just as much as CSS support before these videos, it doesn't make sense to exclude the (X)HTML and CSS areas when everything else has been covered too.

    Yes I did notice what you said about CSS in the first video and I understand the stance the IE team is taking, which is fair enough.

    DMassy wrote:
    The feedback you give us really helps us prioritise the work ahead.


    Feedback: Fix every single (X)HTML and CSS bug that has been reported on Connect, then add support for every damn part of CSS1, 2 and 2.1 that you can manage. XHTML support would be great too eventually.

    Did you know IE doesn't support something as simple as the Q tag? It would also be great to use inherit for text fields, etc, etc, etc...

    I want to see at least as much CSS support that Firefox or Opera offers currently.
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    littleguru
    Rowan wrote:
    Did you know IE doesn't support something as simple as the Q tag?


    That's very interesting. Such things should have made it into IE7... I'm curious why they didn't.
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    DMassy
    littleguru wrote:
    
    Rowan wrote: Did you know IE doesn't support something as simple as the Q tag?


    That's very interesting. Such things should have made it into IE7... I'm curious why they didn't.


    The Q tag, completing CSS2.1 and HTML support are high on our list for future versions. As we've said many many times we did not have time to get to everything in this release and focused on the issues that would have real impact for web developers. Some of the things that we didn't get to might sound easy but it all takes time to test, review and document.

    Rowan,
    CSS and (X)HTML were not deliberately left out of any of these videos. This was as Charles pointed out a random walk of the hallways. There are plenty of other changes in the product that we did not get to discuss with people working on those areas either such as OpenSearch, Addons, Printing, Developer Toolbar, etc. etc.

    Thanks
    -Dave
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    Helen_Massy
    Hi Uncle david very cool site just having a look around saw it in your i.m personal message Big Smile Thought i would drop by
    Love to all [A]
    Helen xx
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    DMassy
    Helen_Massy wrote:
    Hi Uncle david very cool site just having a look around saw it in your i.m personal message Thought i would drop by
    Love to all
    Helen xx


    Hi Helen,

    Love to all the family back home Smiley

    Uncle David

     
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    Linux.​Liberation.​Front
    I Think that Firefox 2.0 will be much more stable secure and easier to handle.
    An big adventage of Firefox is that it is availible for all Operating systems and architektures.
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    Koogle

    enjoyed watching these videos on IE team tour videos.. Eric lawrence made a good insightful speech.

    anyway I've been using IE7 engine since beta1, only with the Maxthon1&2 www.maxthon.com browser frontend(much better power features, you guys should probably take closer look at what those guys are doing to make browsing a easier/faster experience) anyway there is one tiny thing thats bugged me IE7...  the scroll drag icon that appears when you MMB on page, why is that icon so ugly, its like a blockly circle, its not even transparent. I was kinda hoping that it would be the last thing to get polished up before the final release of IE7 just look at it the same icon in firefox.. i mean common guys such a small thing to smarten up.

    well I look forward to more IE engine improvements in the hopefully not so distant future

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    nrohit
    http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6656808-6.html?tag=btn

    How would you respond to the above comparison of Firefox 2 and IE7.

    Do you think it is biased?


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