Karsten Januszewski: WPF

The Discussion

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  More WPF videos! Yes!!!!!! Great way to enjoy the weekend watching another C9 video.

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  Very cool!

  Does anyone know why most of the wmv files from this site won't play on my xbox 360 extender with MCE 2005? They play fine on the PC using media center, but most all of them give me the unsupported file type/codec when I try to play them through the 360.

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  G35Guy wrote:

  Very cool!

  Does anyone know why most of the wmv files from this site won't play on my xbox 360 extender with MCE 2005? They play fine on the PC using media center, but most all of them give me the unsupported file type/codec when I try to play them through the 360.

  
  
  Is this the case for both the streaming and download fies?
  C

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  Charles I love the way this video is so improntu.....It's great! I mean its really cool to see how this seems like a real conversation and it didn't appear that marketing/legal had to sign off in anyway.  More free flowing videos like this please. (This video is really refreshing in that it just shows off an awesome technology and a really smart MS employee who know alot about said technology).
  
  Also I like how you asked really basic questions so that I can give this video to people who don't know anything about WPF or Vista and they can get their minds around what WPF is.

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  I love this video. I just wish it was a little longer .
  
  One question, can we get that VisualBrush manupulation demo (the one with the sphere and the physics) posted? I'd love to switch out what was on that VisualBrush with a video .

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  jmacdonagh wrote:

  I love this video. I just wish it was a little longer .
  
  One question, can we get that VisualBrush manupulation demo (the one with the sphere and the physics) posted? I'd love to switch out what was on that VisualBrush with a video .

  
  You can get the "15 Puzzle" demo source code from Tim Sneath's blog
  
  Sheva
  

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  footballism wrote:

  jmacdonagh wrote: I love this video. I just wish it was a little longer . One question, can we get that VisualBrush manupulation demo (the one with the sphere and the physics) posted? I'd love to switch out what was on that VisualBrush with a video .

  
  You can get the "15 Puzzle" demo source code from Tim Sneath's blog
  
  Sheva
  

  
  
  Sorry, I meant the the one with the mesh and the sphere and the two blocks. The one where you can hit spacebar and the mesh gravitates to the sphere. But thanks for posting the other one!

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  Excellent video guys!
  
  There's no doubt that WPF will eventually be one of those "dent in the universe" technologies, especially with the road paved for it by all those crazy UI's you get to see on TV-series and SciFi movies.
  
  But what does all that goodness has to offer for the near future?
  Will I be able to run all these cool 3d meshes and stretched videos on my home PC, without having my video-card melt after a couple of days of continuous use, or will SGI be starting to release consumer-grade workstations and desktops?
  
  In other words - what's the configuration of the machine that was used to run the Northface demo?

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  YAY! Go Charles, you rock.
  The way the interview started, is really nice!
  
  Karsten did a great job on the interview aswell.

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  Charles wrote:

  G35Guy wrote: Very cool! Does anyone know why most of the wmv files from this site won't play on my xbox 360 extender with MCE 2005? They play fine on the PC using media center, but most all of them give me the unsupported file type/codec when I try to play them through the 360.

  
  
  Is this the case for both the streaming and download fies?
  C

  I've only tried the downloaded files. I've only had my MCE PC for like 2 days, so I'm not even sure how I'd try the streaming files at this point. The video in this post works, actually...but for instance all four videos in the deepwindows_probert_clip1_MBR.wmv video series show thumbnails but won't actually play through the 360. I'd say about 2/3 won't play, the other 1/3 work fine through the 360.

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  jmacdonagh wrote:

  footballism wrote: jmacdonagh wrote: I love this video. I just wish it was a little longer . One question, can we get that VisualBrush manupulation demo (the one with the sphere and the physics) posted? I'd love to switch out what was on that VisualBrush with a video . You can get the "15 Puzzle" demo source code from Tim Sneath's blog Sheva

  
  
  Sorry, I meant the the one with the mesh and the sphere and the two blocks. The one where you can hit spacebar and the mesh gravitates to the sphere. But thanks for posting the other one!

  
  
  That's definitely the most powerful 3D I've seen in WPF to date.
  I'de also love to try out that demo.

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  That's awesome. They also showed these demos in the WPF session at the DevDays this week in Ghent. Really exciting technology.

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  very nice Charles/Karsten.  I love these videos of WPF.  Post more vids on WPF!  Bring back Karsten too!
  

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  This is some great stuff !!
  
  I'd also like to get a better look at the sphere demo shown in this video. Great work

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  A question with an obvious answer perhaps, but does this technology mean that Windows Vista only runs with graphics cards with Direct X enabled? I tried the February CTP on a Virtual PC installation and got none of the translucent effects (or the 'rolex' alt-tab either ) so I'm wondering how it will work over virtual pc or remote desktop?
  
  Surely some apps won't work at all using these two technologies? Otherwise it must be a real pain to cater for non-DX enabled graphics cards.

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  sloppycode wrote:

  A question with an obvious answer perhaps, but does this technology mean that Windows Vista only runs with graphics cards with Direct X enabled? I tried the February CTP on a Virtual PC installation and got none of the translucent effects (or the 'rolex' alt-tab either ) so I'm wondering how it will work over virtual pc or remote desktop?

  
  
  Check out this article on Desktop Composition Remoting: http://blogs.msdn.com/mikekol/archive/2006/02/22/537325.aspx
  
  So, it sounds like you could run these in Remote Desktop--or in a virtual machine via Remote Desktop (but not in the virtual machine "directly").  I haven't had the chance to see what kind of performance you can expect out of such a setup, but I'm anxious to try it out!  My guess is that a text surface might be animated quickly through a combination of local caching and local composition, but you're always going to get stuttering video unless media remoting (something akin to the Media Center Extender technology) is also implemented.  Even, then, though, you're at the mercy of how much bandwidth you have available--you're not going to be able to watch high-quality video on a 56kbps line.

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  Finally! People realize vectors are better than raster.  Those of us in the CAD and simulation world have known this for decades.  Scaling, accuracy, flexibility, etc.  Also, vector data is significantly more compact since it's not the shape being stored or prepared, but the formula for generating it.  Bravo!  Good work.  WPF looks very cool indeed!

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  Yeah. But the real question in this thread is:
  Can we get the 3D sphere sample (or at least the compiled bits) ?!?!
  I would love to have a try at this demo!

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  As far as ALT-TAB goes I think I prefer more Expose from MacOS then the rolodex, being able to see all windows at the same time looks more promising. Could that behaviour be changed and replaced after Vista ships?
  

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  Cool video. I'm looking any articles about this video, any info...

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  ;)nice video indeed, we need the source of that amazing work