SPLASH 2011: Brendan Eich - JavaScript Today and Tomorrow

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    Heavens​Revenge

    http://techluminaries.com/2008/12/15/episode-1-brendan-eich/ Is another interview with Brendon which I consider one of his best, he is inspirational in this podcast I linked and if anyone wants a REALLY good listen I highly suggest it with a 10/10 rating. (Sorry Charles it's even better than this ATM and I'd even suggest you have a listen Tongue Out) Enjoy and I even wished I was hired by Mozilla/Microsoft to do some goodness like what he's done for our modern world.  

    Here's to hoping strict mode is supported in the final incarnations of WinRT!

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    felix9

    Oh you were at OOPSLA ! Great ! Who else did you talked to there ?

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    Charles

    @felix9: Don't you want to be surprised? Smiley

    Dave Thomas, Gilad Bracha, David Ungar, Mark Miller, William Cook, Kresten Thorup. More, too. Wink

    C

    PS: I'm also very happy to announce that I'll be at YOW! 2011 in Australia. So, for Aussie Niners, please try to come to one of these great dev events in Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney!

    Thanks to Dave Thomas for the invitation to attend (with camera, of course). Channel 9 is honored to take part! Smiley

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    felix9

    Having those great non-microsoft people on C9 is VERY GOOD.

    that said, did you get Tim Harris and Rebecca Issacs to talk about AC, the async language extension for C++ ?

    http://www.barrelfish.org/barrelfish_oopsla11.pdf

    and, I think SugarJ is worth looking at since MS is doing Roslyn now

    http://splashcon.org/2011/program/oopsla-research-papers/273-oopsla-4-award-papers
    http://www.uni-marburg.de/fb12/ps/research/sugarj

    an update about Concurrent Revisions from Daan Leijen is welcomed, but I guess you can do that anytime since he is in Redmond, right ?

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    felix9

    oops, there is a broken link, the http://channel9.msdn.com/history should be http://splashcon.org/history/

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    Charles

    @felix9: Nope. Didn't get Tim Harris (in fact, nobody from Microsoft). I wanted to, though. Dammit! I can get Tim next time he's in Redmond. I prioritized the folks I generally don't have a chance to talk to (pretty much ever...).

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    B3NT

    @Charles What and awesome interview. I work with soooo many people who would be little tyrants if they had done something that successful and used by so many other people. He seemed really very with it.

    Right on...or "Rock N Roll!"

     

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    vesuvius

    @Charles: Guy Steele would be a steal if every you get the opportunity again.

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    Charles

    @vesuvius: I agree. I did interview him once (with Anders) back in 2008 at JAOO. The topic of that conversation is still quite in vogue. Smiley Guy is great.
    C

    PS: But of course you know this as you were first to comment in that thread! Wink

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    George_​Curelet_​Balan

    A great, insightful and thought provoking interview about Javascript evolution!

    My bookmarked notes on the video in minute:seconds format follow:

    0:50 Javascript as a mature evolving language (ref to Harmony agenda)

    1:30 reference to the module system

    2:00 Eich comments on Javascript improvements looking more like java

    3:38 Javascript as web assembly

    5:00 Javascript is still a language for beginners as it evolves?   Eich: the language should not grow too large

    6:03 a pattern tells you that there is a bug in the programming language

    6:18 ref to growing the language exemplified with English language single syllable words

    6:50 impact of removing Javascript bad parts

    8:20 Javascript as a functional language

    9:15 adding types to the language

    10:05 Javascript will never have mandatory types

    10:40 Comments about the Dart language

    11:40 Javascript as a compile target

    13:15 Dart as a warning language

    14:00 Javascript as the most popular language. Since Javascript runs the web (that has so many good parts) it is hard to replace it with something else. Javascript should evolve.

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    Charles

    @George_Curelet_Balan: Thanks for the bookmarks! I'll turn them into links Smiley

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    snowden

    wtb google + widget

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