Rory

Windows Mobile 6.0 Things and Stuff

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The Mobile and Embedded Devices Conference (MEDC) is taking place in Vegas next week, and I thought I'd post a little fun here to get things going.

Mel Sampat stopped by to demo some fancy-schmancy stuff in Windows Mobile 6.0. There's more going on now for both devs and users.

One of the nicer things about 6.0, at least from a dev standpoint, is that the .NET CF 2.0 and SQL Server Compact Edition 2.0 both ship in ROM, meaning you can deploy your nice little apps without having to deploy the runtime as well. That made me happy Smiley

In the video, you'll get to see some of what's new with Pocket Outlook, an experimental managed implementation of voice recognition APIs, and more.

It's because of stuff like that (managed voice recognition APIs?)

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    The Discussion

    • raymond
      Rory: " ...Wow, Wow, but it works!" Smiley

      Doesn't everything Microsoft ships work? Wink

      Great video Rory!

      Cool

    • Mubshir Raza Ali
      Windows Mobile 2007 is really CoOooOoool....
    • Chadk
      :|That expense program is cool!
    • Tensor
      Very nice but bet you still can not post on c9 with Pocket IE on it. Sad
    • Massif
      Damn you Microsoft! I was quite happy with my rubbish old Siemens mobile. (They don't even make mobiles any more do they?)

      Now I'm wanting to get a new phone.

      Curse you!

      Excellent stuff, how's the soapbox work going? You've had a couple of months, do all the videos work on mobiles yet? Big Smile
    • Bas
      That's really great. I may just have to get a new phone for that.

      Also, good video in terms of length/info.
    • DoomBringer
      All that managed stuff is nice, but has anything been done in native code (this is me commenting without watching the video)?  I just finished a whole bunch of WM5.0 native code (there are several reasons for this...) and was curious.
    • MetaGunny
      This is really good but is it available yet on the palm treo 700w?  In the video I think he mentioned this video is going to be released after it's available.

      I'm surprised to hear anyone likes the tmobile dash over the treo.

      Also, it would be nice to have some basic features fixed/added like adding a phone number that just called you to your contacts without having to memorize it, better call conferencing (my little crappy nokia was a million times better than the conferencing on the 700w), keeping an e-mail marked as read when I then move it to another folder (when viewed in outlook on my desktop it's unread but in the folder), etc.

      Hopefully you guys start doing more smaller incremental improvements instead of always big picture let's change the world type stuff.
    • littleguru
      Is the Excalibur + Windows Mobile 6.0 already available? I have looked at different vendors and they seem only to sell it with Windows Mobile 5.0.
    • littleguru
      Chadk wrote:
      That expense program is cool!


      Expressionless I would also like to kiss this little device Smiley Great stuff! Is the source somewhere available? Is this speech recognition thing also coming to the phone or is it only for the "larger" devices? I'm wondering, because in the video another device than the phone is used!
    • erik_

      Can the voice application not run on the s620 smartphone, because of low processor speed? Or was it just installed not installed on that smartphone yet, but could run on it.

    • swiatecki
      Rory + winmobile = sweet !!!Big Smile:D

      Rory + Mel = yay !

      Speech to text = OMFG !
    • melsam [MS]
      erik_ wrote:
      

      Can the voice application not run on the s620 smartphone, because of low processor speed? Or was it just installed not installed on that smartphone yet, but could run on it.



      Hi Erik:
      It just wasn't installed on the Smartphone at that point in the demo, but it works fine all devices. In general you can assume that pretty much anything we do these days is for all Windows Mobile devices -the differences between Pocket PC and Smartphone are going away, to result in a single Windows Mobile platform for developers.

      -Mel
    • melsam [MS]
      littleguru wrote:
      Is the Excalibur + Windows Mobile 6.0 already available? I have looked at different vendors and they seem only to sell it with Windows Mobile 5.0.


      Windows Mobile 6 devices aren't available from T-mobile at this time, but they will be available very soon. I've heard the Dash (HTC Excalibur) will be end-user upgradable to Windows Mobile 6 soon. See http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/tmobile-dash-upgradeable-to-windows-mobile-6-237056.php .

      -Mel
    • melsam [MS]
      littleguru wrote:
      
      Chadk wrote: That expense program is cool!


      I would also like to kiss this little device Great stuff! Is the source somewhere available? Is this speech recognition thing also coming to the phone or is it only for the "larger" devices? I'm wondering, because in the video another device than the phone is used!


      Unfortunately the source isn't available because the speech libraries themselves aren't publicly available yet. From a programming perspective, the code is very simple - just like using any other managed classes from C# or VB.NET.

      Even though we don't have anything that developers can start playing with right now, I assure you that speech is a very important piece of our mobile strategy. Take a look at this story about some cool things we're doing with TellMe (a recent MSFT aquisition):
      http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-tellme-launches-three-new-mobile-search-services/4721/

      Developers will see great speech support they can leverage in their mobile applications soon. Thanks for your patience.

      -Mel
    • littleguru
      melsam [MS] wrote:
      
      littleguru wrote: 
      Chadk wrote: That expense program is cool!


      I would also like to kiss this little device Great stuff! Is the source somewhere available? Is this speech recognition thing also coming to the phone or is it only for the "larger" devices? I'm wondering, because in the video another device than the phone is used!


      Unfortunately the source isn't available because the speech libraries themselves aren't publicly available yet. From a programming perspective, the code is very simple - just like using any other managed classes from C# or VB.NET.

      Even though we don't have anything that developers can start playing with right now, I assure you that speech is a very important piece of our mobile strategy. Take a look at this story about some cool things we're doing with TellMe (a recent MSFT aquisition):
      http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-tellme-launches-three-new-mobile-search-services/4721/

      Developers will see great speech support they can leverage in their mobile applications soon. Thanks for your patience.

      -Mel


      Thanks for the feedback. I hope the stuff gets public in the future Smiley Would be great to play around with it. I can already immagine some great apps building on top of it.
    • Richard.Hein
      That made me happy too, right up until the last 11 words.  "... we may not have voice support in the release version, but ..."  And the fade to black is just what I felt in my heart too, just like I did this morning when I heard ADO.NET Entity Framework will NOT be in the Orcas release, and just like I felt when I booted Vista and all my user settings and files were moved and inaccessible - it was completely reset for some reason.  This is not a good few days for our relationship MS.  [C]  I'm sorry I sent Bill that email about our mobile plans, I thought he'd be interested.  Why are you torturing me?  Wink

      Come on guys, don't say there might not be support, we NEED it, let's iron it out together - get the speech libraries out there.  The ADO.NET Entity Framework is the thing I've been pitching as the best thing in 30 years, because we'll finally really get to code against a solid object model, or at least approach that vision.  Get it out, we'll help make it better, put them on CodePlex.  Please!  [A]

       
    • rhm
      Very cool stuff in WM6. You do get the impression that Mel is thinking "I wish they'd sent me a grown up to film the interview" though.
    • liridon shala
      Great video, and nice feature of windows mobile 6.0.


      6.0 7.0 and mobile xp will cam soon maybe we'll see that as too far that's going cam.Wink

    • zebrum
      A beta of WM6 for the excalibur was released ages ago and you can get the final now. Unfortunately you need to pay $20 to CID unlock your HTC S620 (the one in the video) to flash it with a T-mobile ROM instead of an HTC one. T-mobiles WM6 final actually just came out the other day but the HTC version won't be out to June. I'm not sure if the one in the video is the T-mobile one or not. The problem with the T-Mobile beta is it includes an application which sends about 5 SMS a day to a UK phone number so until you uninstall that app you might run up a rather large phone bill.

      One thing thats badly designed is that you should be allowed to press D to delete or R to reply to email messages, unfortunatley on Smartphone you need to use numbers. However on pocket PC querty devices you can use letters.


    • Deviant

      Yes, please release mobile APIs for text-to-speech and voice recognition as soon as possible, even if not at the same time.

      MS Voice Command is nice, but could do SO much more!

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