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Don Box - Tour of Indigo Team

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Don Box takes Channel 9 on a tour of building 42 at Microsoft. What's there? The Indigo team. Code-name for a future set of .NET technologies that'll help you build and run connected systems.

You'll run into tons of people working on Indigo.

This is a long video, sorry. We just kept meeting interesting people. It's a bit long, and a bit unedited, but hope you enjoy this look inside the Indigo team.

Among the people you'll meet are (not a complete list):

Max Feingold, software design manager, the guy who did the CoEnterServiceDomain functions.

Dave Driver, software design engineer.
Dick Dievendorff, software architect, worked on COM+.
Florin Lazar, software developer engineer/test, works on transactions.
Harris Syed, software design engineer, works on unmanaged part of Indigo.
Mark Gabarra, build facilitation developer.
Kitty Carpenter, administrative assistant for the Indigo team.
Rodney Limprecht, architect.
Riyaz Pishori, program manager. Worked on CoInitializeSecurity.
Andy Milligan, program manager, works on unmanaged part of Indigo.
Sowmy Srinivasan, software design engineer.
Jesus Ruiz-Scougall, software design engineer, works on remoting.
Alex DeJarnatt, software design engineer.
Natasha Jethanandani, software design engineer.
Aaron Stern, software design engineer.
John Shewchuk, architect.
John Lambert, security test lead.

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    The Discussion

    • tnerb.truell
      Cool.  And let us never forget Don's contribution to one of the greatest MSDN TV episodes:

      http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdntv/episode.aspx?xml=episodes/en/20031218XAMLDB/manifest.xml

      The fun picks up around the 15th minute Smiley Thanks Don!
    • aaronmeis
      So many times were so focused on a piece of a project or a deadline we  forget about the "team", what a great tribute to teamwork. Great contribution Don and Channel 9. It's great to see all of the people you work with and that are a part of the Indigo team.
      Sincerely Thanks.
    • bwill
      I really like Don's description of Channel 9, right at the end: "Microsoft reality TV".
    • Steve411
      Great video.. Amazing insights into Ms.
        But, one thing still remains un-resolved to me..
       In your opinion(s), what is the BEST part of indigo?
    • HellSnoopy
      "This is a long video, sorry. We just kept meeting interesting people. It's a bit long, and a bit unedited, but hope you enjoy this look inside the Indigo team."

      That was the beauty of this video , long and unedited !

      Cheers !
    • jlowgren

      Good movie, and pardon me for going offtopic, but what videocamera are you using?

    • CRPietschma​nn
      To often do we just take for granted that there are these wonderfull tools available for us to use, and we never realize that there were developers that made this. It's nice to see some of those faces behind some of the stuff that we use. Being a .NET Developer, I am pretty excited to see some of the advancement that come with Indigo and all the other new technologies.
    • Minh
      Who wants to count how many "so" were said?
      It's an MS thing I guess...
    • The Channel 9 Team
      We use a Sony DCR-HC20. Costs $450 at Best Buy.

      And a Bogen tripod with a video head. Costs about $140.
    • JonnyRocks
      No reson to apologize for the length. I love these videos that show the "inner workings" of microsoft. I have never complained about videos being too long, the more the merrier.
    • Sathyaish Chakravarthy
      Two things that stand out in the clippage:

      • Don Box is an extremely affable person. He keeps a very low-profile, demured disposition even inspite of the fact that he is rightly considered a larger-than-life icon for programmers around the world. He's not only a truly great programmer but is an even better human being. Oh! did I forget to say, an excellent guitarist too?
      • What is amazing is the familiarity amoung the members in the team. It is remarkable that Don Box not only knows each one of those he's introduced in the building, but also knows the minute details of the work they are doing.

      Other highlights of the video, the ones that we are already used to, are:

      • Oh! The long lobbyish corridoor. Every guy has a closed-door office. Remember, Chris Sell's tour of the MSDN Longhorn center? 
      • At Microsoft, you always have help at an arm's length. You want help? Go ask the guy who's creating the technology you're stuck with - the ultimate source.
      • Robert Scoble's cute outbursts of laughter. He's got a child-like laughter. I like it. It sounds so juvenile, and I like it very much.
      It's interesting that most of the geeks like sitting without the lights on. The test lead on transactions in the white t-shirt towards the begining of the clip (at somewhere around 6:25, the engineer introduced just before Saji), I forget his name, had that peculiar squeamish, geeky look of an introvert who wouldn't tolerate any kind of an intrusion. His gaze was transfixed in alarm when they barged in on him; it was as if they'd caught him red-handed committing a sin. Truly Dosteovskian. And another guy, who Robert called a marketing guy, he was looking for the wall to lean on.

      Excellent video! More of Don Box, please. Microsoft, please! Pretty please, hire me.
    • DebugThis
      I vote this video for one of the all-time greats.  I really enjoyed going on the tour.  You never knew what kind of character will appear next.  The Indigo team seems like a great place to work at.  Don Box seems like the kind of guy you would love to code for.  Excellent video!  Thanks Scoble.

      Also, excellent color comentary by Sathyaish. I second that: Microsoft Please Hire Me.
    • The Channel 9 Team
      For those of you who want to get hired, watch the video that we'll post tonight by the JobsBloggers. It tells all about the hiring process.

      Nearly every team we've interviewed lately is hiring. Internet Explorer. C#. Xbox Live. Indigo. ASP.NET/IIS. And many more.

      Start at http://www.microsoft.com/careers
    • Sathyaish Chakravarthy
      Yeah! I read from Zoe and Gretchen's blog that Robert interviewed them too. That's supposed to be coming out early next week, right?
    • The Channel 9 Team
      Actually, that'll be up tonight (first of three parts will be, anyway).
    • Sathyaish Chakravarthy
      Wow! Can't wait to watch them.
    • ZippyV
      So, what's on the 4th floor?
    • The Channel 9 Team

      We're scared now to go up there. Smiley

    • ZippyV
      I wan't to see more videos like this:
      Great presenter with the original api question. Plus points for Scoble for asking quality questions in real-time/unprepared.

      BTW, Was this the full video?
    • scobleizer
      Thanks! It's hard to ask questions of architects who are at least 40 IQ points smarter than I am without sounding too stupid.

      It was almost all of it. Toward the end I cut out a guy who didn't want to be part of it, and cut out something that hadn't been publicly disclosed yet. I wish I had ended it better. But, glad you liked it anyway.

      OK, we'll get you more things like this. It's hard to know what'll come out interesting.
    • scobleizer
      By the way, I'm working on getting downloads of all the videos working, so the video of Gretchen and Zoe will need to wait until tomorrow or so -- I have to get all the downloads working before I can upload more videos. Sorry about that.

      On the other hand, all the videos we've put up so far should be available tomorrow for downloading here on Microsoft.com/downloads.
    • Sathyaish Chakravarthy
      Robert Scoble said,

      By the way, I'm working on getting downloads of all the videos working, so the video of Gretchen and Zoe will need to wait until tomorrow or so -- I have to get all the downloads working before I can upload more videos. Sorry about that.

      You're better known by your surname, but I'd like to address you as Robert.

      Tomorrow is fine, Robert. Thanks for the great effort you guys have put in. I am sure you wouldn't have premeditated the popularity of this website when you set out for it. This is turning out to be a lot more than just 5 guys from Redmond, no?
    • scobleizer
      Robert is fine! Heh.

      Yeah, who knew? Glad to have you along. Yeah, that's on my plate too: to scale this thing up. We have teams doing an Indian version now, and Mike Hall and others are helping get different content. You all are the best. It's so fun to have conversations here.

      I think it'd be cool if everyone could upload videos. I'd love to see the kinds of things you all are doing with Windows.

      Robert
    • Sathyaish Chakravarthy
      Robert, you voyeur! You surely don't want us to upload amateur videos showing what we do, with the windows around our places now, do you? Wink

      Indian version you say? I didn't get that. Yeah, I think I heard something posted here a while back about this. So, an Indian version means videos from Hyderabad, Delhi and Bangalore you mean? Or videos with translation in Hindi?
    • scobleizer
      http://channel9.msdn.com/india -- right, content from India and also content done here in Redmond too.
    • Sathyaish Chakravarthy
      Thanks! Hey, I hope you weren't put off by the joke in my previous post.
    • sc00ter

      Yet another excellent video from the Channel 9 crew.  I love it.  Always like seeing the inside of MS's buildings and being able to see what happens behind the walls and who does what.  Exciting stuff.

      Seeing these videos makes me want to work for MS even more.  Lots of nice people.

    • rasx
      Yeah, ok, Don! But do you have time to finish that WordML transform to XHTML! I can see you are busy saving the free world with next-generation cutting edge technology but can you finish just one XSLT file?

      And what happened to your Hulk fists? Ang Lee's work not good enough for you?
    • FlorinLazar

      In reply to Sathyaish Chakravarthy post about my "peculiar look":

      During those days I was dealing with a serious eye fatigue that was causing me pain and made my eyes very sensitive to light. That was the main reason for having the lights dimmed in my office. Also, as you notice in the video, my office door was open, which at Microsoft means that "intrusions" are allowed.

      Last but not least, I'm not a Hollywood actor used to be filmed every day, so having Don Box and Robert suddenly entering my office with the camera on was certainly a surprise.

      It might look Dostoevskian from the outside, but it isn't actually.

    • Nicholas

      Man you guys really party out their at MS don't you?         

    • stefanra
      Such a beautiful video!

      Thanks Don!

      And Channel9 Crew: Make more videos about the guys "behind the code".
    • ip_fresh
      Hello from romania,

      very nice video. I'm an engineer and I appreciate the work you do over there.

      salut!
      danny
      http://www.work-at-home-profits.com
      http://www.marketingtops.net
    • MisterDonut
      Douglas Adams would be happy...
    • TarunSingh
      The tour is simply GREAT.
      Don Box is my idol.....

      I think of him as my "Virtual GURU".

    • Sathyaish Chakravarthy
      FlorinLazar replied,

      During those days I was dealing with a serious eye fatigue that was causing me pain and made my eyes very sensitive to light. That was the main reason for having the lights dimmed in my office. Also, as you notice in the video, my office door was open, which at Microsoft means that "intrusions" are allowed.

      Last but not least, I'm not a Hollywood actor used to be filmed every day, so having Don Box and Robert suddenly entering my office with the camera on was certainly a surprise.

      It might look Dostoevskian from the outside, but it isn't actually.


      I am very sorry to hear about the eye fatique. I hope you've healed now. If not, I wish you a quick recovery. I beg your pardon if my comments have unintentionally caused you concern. I certainly didn't mean any ridicule, not even the least. I meant that the part of the video had a literary savour and it braught out the uber-geek quality of voluntary, solitary confinement of the geeks within their work-cells, which is actually quite appealing. I would probably have a more pensive look if I was in the middle of my work and was required to pop out of the zone. The intrusion I refer to was not meant to be intrusion in a literal sense.

    • Manip
      Whoever did that editing did a very good job on blocking out all those screens (and the diet coke cans?). It really was seamless, it almost looked like it was due to the video quality but sometimes it moves off centre and you can see it go over other random objects. Smiley

      I was almost hoping we would see someone wearing a T-shirt with the public key used to generate certificates on it.. Wink
    • rhm
      That was a fun video (always the case with Don Smiley, but I don't think I learned a single thing about Indigo from it.

      I know these aren't the marketting people and they didn't appear to get any warning before having a camera shoved in their face, but I'm surprised they couldn't even come out with the "official answers" to question about their project. I think eveyone on a project should be able to say at a moment's notice what's so great about their project.
    • WinInsider
      Any word whether Indigo will ship with .NET 2.0?

      For all fans of Don Box here is another video. – the “long hairstyle” version Smiley
    • scobleizer
      Indigo is separate from .NET 2.0, as far as I understand.

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