Joe Beda - Managed vs. unmanaged, how much of Avalon was done that way?

Lwatson wrote:
About power on the desktop and net aware rich applications, I am extremely excited over the prospects that this paradigm brings to the table for application development.
Hi Joe,
interesting videos. After hearing your comment about how to prepare for Avalon it made me think about Visual Studio and way in which people develop applications. If you are a good developer you know that you should layer your application, however, Visual Studio
uses the "old Visual Basic" approach to rich client development. In other words, you create a windows form application. What does Visual Studio do, it creates a main function in the form you create first. Already that means the form is doing more than presentation.
Potentially people will also write application initialisation code in this function. Ok I add a button to the form and click on it and the idea opens up the associated event routines. So far I could be writing all my business logic etc within the form.
Of course no one would do this ??? Well, how many prototypes that become production systems are written this way, it is seductive to less skilled developers.
Wouldn't it better if the tools tried to lead people to develop applications using a layed approach. It would certainly help with migration later on to Avalon.
Martin Spedding