Microsoft Windows Vista!

The Discussion

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  a pink panda thong... maybe

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  a pink panda thong... maybe

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  and that keyboard is ugly.
  
  I like that they added in the desktop in the alt-tab

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  and that keyboard is ugly.
  
  I like that they added in the desktop in the alt-tab

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  dident you comment about a guy in womans undware before? Hmmm....

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  dident you comment about a guy in womans undware before? Hmmm....

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  so i guess the video card market is going to explode in january 2007. thanks for the stock tip...
  
  I like it, especially that it can crash programs more elegantly... lol 3D-ish scrolling windows are cool. 
  
  Overall, not completely original, but very nice none the less.
  
  Sweet segment

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  so i guess the video card market is going to explode in january 2007. thanks for the stock tip...
  
  I like it, especially that it can crash programs more elegantly... lol 3D-ish scrolling windows are cool. 
  
  Overall, not completely original, but very nice none the less.
  
  Sweet segment

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  negative

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  negative

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  Actually, I really have no problem with XP but damn does Vista look fantastic!  I can't wait to get this and finally tell all those Apple freak kids who are around me to take their OSX and stick it.  Mac users make me want to hurt people, for the most part, they are SO ANNOYING.  Holy hell, 3D!!  Oh 10 why do you tease me like this soooo.  January 2007, damn it, I want Vista now

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  Actually, I really have no problem with XP but damn does Vista look fantastic!  I can't wait to get this and finally tell all those Apple freak kids who are around me to take their OSX and stick it.  Mac users make me want to hurt people, for the most part, they are SO ANNOYING.  Holy hell, 3D!!  Oh 10 why do you tease me like this soooo.  January 2007, damn it, I want Vista now

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  There is no doubt that this will be a genuine improvement upon XP in many regards, but I will hold off final judgment until spending some quality hands on time with Vista.  I am really digging the new GUI as well and I guess it will be time for a new high end PC come January!  Just what I need another reason to spend money...  lol

   

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  There is no doubt that this will be a genuine improvement upon XP in many regards, but I will hold off final judgment until spending some quality hands on time with Vista.  I am really digging the new GUI as well and I guess it will be time for a new high end PC come January!  Just what I need another reason to spend money...  lol

   

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  Agreed, Apple fanatics are damn annoying, but I will tell you that OSX is a far more stable and dependable operating system.  As usual, Microsoft is relying on eye candy and media to push its software.  Can you say 360?
  
  BTW...I'm not saying that Apple is better, but I've had no problems with mine.  I made the jump to Macs for work a few years back because I had nothing but problems with Windows based machines.  I still, however, game on my PC with windows.  Good times.
  

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  Agreed, Apple fanatics are damn annoying, but I will tell you that OSX is a far more stable and dependable operating system.  As usual, Microsoft is relying on eye candy and media to push its software.  Can you say 360?
  
  BTW...I'm not saying that Apple is better, but I've had no problems with mine.  I made the jump to Macs for work a few years back because I had nothing but problems with Windows based machines.  I still, however, game on my PC with windows.  Good times.
  

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  I´m really looking forward to this! User interface is something that I really appreciate and Vista seems to be heading in the right direction in that deparment. Graphically it looks awesome. Pitty we still have to wait so long.
  
  Cool stuff, but does Mr. Cameraman wish to appear on my next wallpaper or was he just getting in the shot by accident?? j/k

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  I´m really looking forward to this! User interface is something that I really appreciate and Vista seems to be heading in the right direction in that deparment. Graphically it looks awesome. Pitty we still have to wait so long.
  
  Cool stuff, but does Mr. Cameraman wish to appear on my next wallpaper or was he just getting in the shot by accident?? j/k

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  But not revolutionary. I think it's time to completely throw the whole GUI and user interaction upside down and start building an OS from scratch based on user feedback. Don't think within the limits of the current Windows-based OSes either, I mean, listen to what people are saying they want, and then come up with fresh, new ideas to give them what they want.
  Anyway, othetr than DirectX 10, what's in it for the gamers? A few months ago I'd heard rumors about games being more accessible, more configurable, etc etc, but I have heard more recently that some of these features have been discarded.

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  But not revolutionary. I think it's time to completely throw the whole GUI and user interaction upside down and start building an OS from scratch based on user feedback. Don't think within the limits of the current Windows-based OSes either, I mean, listen to what people are saying they want, and then come up with fresh, new ideas to give them what they want.
  Anyway, othetr than DirectX 10, what's in it for the gamers? A few months ago I'd heard rumors about games being more accessible, more configurable, etc etc, but I have heard more recently that some of these features have been discarded.

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  All I can say is it's about time.  I never liked XP and its one of the reasons I made the jump to Mac a few years back.  Have there been many improvements to system stability and web browsing?  Internet Explorer 6 was horrible!  The only thing I liked about XP was its support for games.
  
  Anyway, Vista is looking very good and I'm eager to give it a whirl.  I sincerely hope there's more to it graphical polish and media.  Microsoft has become notorious for products that look great but don't always work.
  

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  All I can say is it's about time.  I never liked XP and its one of the reasons I made the jump to Mac a few years back.  Have there been many improvements to system stability and web browsing?  Internet Explorer 6 was horrible!  The only thing I liked about XP was its support for games.
  
  Anyway, Vista is looking very good and I'm eager to give it a whirl.  I sincerely hope there's more to it graphical polish and media.  Microsoft has become notorious for products that look great but don't always work.
  

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  As early tester for Vista, this operating system is the most secure one right now, 'coz its latest builds (5308, 5342, and 5365) haven't been cracked by hackers worldwide, i mean by "cracked" that is to develop an anti-WPA [Windows Product Activation] patch !!
  This is from security perspective !! from GUI perspective, it looks awesome 'coz it's been built over WPF (code named AVALON) which a great technology to build stunning and cute application in its shape !!
  
  VISTA is the most operating system in the world of IT that consumes 100% of web services available on the Internet, a cool example that would show up as an important web service for vista is Windows Live ID which replaces Microsoft Passport !!
  
  Talking about VISTA would be endless !! want more tidbits about it, check out my space: http://spaces.msn.com/unprecedented
  
  Thank you 10 !!

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  As early tester for Vista, this operating system is the most secure one right now, 'coz its latest builds (5308, 5342, and 5365) haven't been cracked by hackers worldwide, i mean by "cracked" that is to develop an anti-WPA [Windows Product Activation] patch !!
  This is from security perspective !! from GUI perspective, it looks awesome 'coz it's been built over WPF (code named AVALON) which a great technology to build stunning and cute application in its shape !!
  
  VISTA is the most operating system in the world of IT that consumes 100% of web services available on the Internet, a cool example that would show up as an important web service for vista is Windows Live ID which replaces Microsoft Passport !!
  
  Talking about VISTA would be endless !! want more tidbits about it, check out my space: http://spaces.msn.com/unprecedented
  
  Thank you 10 !!

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  Looks slick but i'm curious what the system requirements will finally be? I've seen and heard it's going to require at least 1gb of ram recommended and 2gb preferred? Now for most of us gamers that won't be a problem but for the average user this will be. Also I heard there's going to be 7 different versions of Vista?
  

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  Looks slick but i'm curious what the system requirements will finally be? I've seen and heard it's going to require at least 1gb of ram recommended and 2gb preferred? Now for most of us gamers that won't be a problem but for the average user this will be. Also I heard there's going to be 7 different versions of Vista?
  

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  I'll always be a PC person but I must say the new Macbook Pro Intel based Mac is quite nice. I primarily use my PC for music production and gaming and the macbook pro for work related stuff but I'm thinking about moving over all of my audio and video editing app's to the macbook. OSX is nice and it's stable.
  
  Looks like Vista may be along the same lines....let's hope! =)
  

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  I'll always be a PC person but I must say the new Macbook Pro Intel based Mac is quite nice. I primarily use my PC for music production and gaming and the macbook pro for work related stuff but I'm thinking about moving over all of my audio and video editing app's to the macbook. OSX is nice and it's stable.
  
  Looks like Vista may be along the same lines....let's hope! =)
  

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  Well, I would venture to say that anyone obsessed with anything is annoying.
  OSX is more stable because there is so little variation in both the hardware and software that interact with it.
  I can not believe you just said "As usual, Microsoft is relying on eye candy."  Apple users always say that Windows is ugly, and it's not anymore.  Plus, you have to realize that there is much more under the hood that 10 didn't show, because this is a consumer website.  For example, I understand that the kernal was compleatly redone.
  ... not that there's anything wrong with using mac.
  
  
  *awaiting vista*

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  Well, I would venture to say that anyone obsessed with anything is annoying.
  OSX is more stable because there is so little variation in both the hardware and software that interact with it.
  I can not believe you just said "As usual, Microsoft is relying on eye candy."  Apple users always say that Windows is ugly, and it's not anymore.  Plus, you have to realize that there is much more under the hood that 10 didn't show, because this is a consumer website.  For example, I understand that the kernal was compleatly redone.
  ... not that there's anything wrong with using mac.
  
  
  *awaiting vista*

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  I guess it's time to upgrade. If I installed that now my computer would burst into flames.

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  I guess it's time to upgrade. If I installed that now my computer would burst into flames.

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  You must love Linux then.   Microsoft does get feedback.
  I agree, Vista isn't quite revolutionary, but it is a big step up from XP.
  All of the games appear in the same place, which I find nice.  Also Vista will go out to the internet and grab info on it, like the game rating for use in parental controlls.  I'm sure there's more, but I forget.

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  You must love Linux then.   Microsoft does get feedback.
  I agree, Vista isn't quite revolutionary, but it is a big step up from XP.
  All of the games appear in the same place, which I find nice.  Also Vista will go out to the internet and grab info on it, like the game rating for use in parental controlls.  I'm sure there's more, but I forget.

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  As far as eye-candy is concerned I wish they'd play a little more with the way the windows open up. I really liked how the SGI stations would open windows (buttons or whatever they were called) The way it was animated, where it flipped around in 3d while expanding was bad arse. (or at least at the time i though it was really cool, things sometime aren't as cool as you remember...... anyway) I think they had the screen shots in Jurassic Park and something like it in Lawn Mower man.  Something like that would be cool while needlessly hog processing power. I DON'T CARE... I WANT FLIPPY WINDOWS.

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  As far as eye-candy is concerned I wish they'd play a little more with the way the windows open up. I really liked how the SGI stations would open windows (buttons or whatever they were called) The way it was animated, where it flipped around in 3d while expanding was bad arse. (or at least at the time i though it was really cool, things sometime aren't as cool as you remember...... anyway) I think they had the screen shots in Jurassic Park and something like it in Lawn Mower man.  Something like that would be cool while needlessly hog processing power. I DON'T CARE... I WANT FLIPPY WINDOWS.

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  Vista!!!!
  
  Looks awesome.
  But now it looks as if i need to upgrade my graphics card.

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  Vista!!!!
  
  Looks awesome.
  But now it looks as if i need to upgrade my graphics card.

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  Thanks for the idea njcu !  

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  Thanks for the idea njcu !  

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  another great show, keep up the good job you gal's, i can.t wait for vista to arrive, i am in the process of upgrading my pc right now, so thinks for the pre-view of vista.

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  another great show, keep up the good job you gal's, i can.t wait for vista to arrive, i am in the process of upgrading my pc right now, so thinks for the pre-view of vista.

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  Actually, I am really looking forward to the enhanced integration between the Vista OS and the 360.  With Vista's built in Media Center component the 360 will be even better with regards to being a media hub.  I know current Media Center PC owners have this advantage already, but including Media Center with Vista is a great idea.

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  Actually, I am really looking forward to the enhanced integration between the Vista OS and the 360.  With Vista's built in Media Center component the 360 will be even better with regards to being a media hub.  I know current Media Center PC owners have this advantage already, but including Media Center with Vista is a great idea.

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  Not so fast...Glass reportedly will (maybe already does?) work on Intel Integrated 950 series chips.  I'm not sure if it's only a certain model number of those though, so don't quote me on that.  Just remember that there will be integrated graphics capable of running Aero Glass.

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  Not so fast...Glass reportedly will (maybe already does?) work on Intel Integrated 950 series chips.  I'm not sure if it's only a certain model number of those though, so don't quote me on that.  Just remember that there will be integrated graphics capable of running Aero Glass.

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  I know this is a MS-owned website and apologize for pointing out the "Emperor is naked" but:
  
  Wow, looks like Vista will be emphasizing aesthetics over functionality the way Apple has been doing for years...great, guys, I don't think PC users are going to appreciate the Macintrash modus operandi for gaming/productivity/office use. 
  
  So how will this OS benefit casual users and office personnel that just want to use standard office apps...without being forced to upgrade their machines to they can deal with all of the pretty 3D candy-coating?  
  
  Why is Vista even in production when malware can infect computers by simply visiting a website?  Will Vista also allow unscrupulous programmers unnecessary access/control to OS-centric files/applications via the internet?  That "grandma" feature looks like it's just asking for a whole new litany of destructive/invasive security vulnerabilities.

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  I know this is a MS-owned website and apologize for pointing out the "Emperor is naked" but:
  
  Wow, looks like Vista will be emphasizing aesthetics over functionality the way Apple has been doing for years...great, guys, I don't think PC users are going to appreciate the Macintrash modus operandi for gaming/productivity/office use. 
  
  So how will this OS benefit casual users and office personnel that just want to use standard office apps...without being forced to upgrade their machines to they can deal with all of the pretty 3D candy-coating?  
  
  Why is Vista even in production when malware can infect computers by simply visiting a website?  Will Vista also allow unscrupulous programmers unnecessary access/control to OS-centric files/applications via the internet?  That "grandma" feature looks like it's just asking for a whole new litany of destructive/invasive security vulnerabilities.

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  Also:
  
  Aside from the nifty OSX-esque 3D acceleration (aka Aero-glass) for windows, I'm not really seeing a whole bunch that XP users using widgets from Konfabulator/Yahoo! couldn't already experience without plunking the extra $100-$200 for a new hardware-intensive OS. 

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  Also:
  
  Aside from the nifty OSX-esque 3D acceleration (aka Aero-glass) for windows, I'm not really seeing a whole bunch that XP users using widgets from Konfabulator/Yahoo! couldn't already experience without plunking the extra $100-$200 for a new hardware-intensive OS. 

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  What does the "fix xp" mean? XP works fine for me for a long time especially with SP2. XP is shaping its perfect form and another overhaul is needed. Vista is coming to help. Sweet!

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  What does the "fix xp" mean? XP works fine for me for a long time especially with SP2. XP is shaping its perfect form and another overhaul is needed. Vista is coming to help. Sweet!

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  I'd have the same problem with mine.  I gave up on gaming half a year ago because of all the insane requirements.  It would be nice to win that pimped out rig.  Pitty.  I think we all know who will.  *sighs*
  

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  I'd have the same problem with mine.  I gave up on gaming half a year ago because of all the insane requirements.  It would be nice to win that pimped out rig.  Pitty.  I think we all know who will.  *sighs*
  

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  I guess you've never visited a website and had a virus utterly decimate your computer?  Not only was there an anti-virus application running, Firefox was also the browser used while the infection occured.
  
  An OS should NOT be that comprimised by a mere visit to a website.  There needs to be less ability for maliscious software on the internet to interact with OS-critical files.  Ever had a virus embedd itself in your "System Volume Information" folder? Ya know: the folder that the admin running the OS doesn't even have access to but a virus does?  Inherent design flaws that need to be remedied, if you ask me.
  
  Don't get me wrong: XP's leagues ahead of the prior OS iterations but that doesn't mean I should abandon it for a eye-candy coated new OS that may offer the same vulnerabilities.

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  I guess you've never visited a website and had a virus utterly decimate your computer?  Not only was there an anti-virus application running, Firefox was also the browser used while the infection occured.
  
  An OS should NOT be that comprimised by a mere visit to a website.  There needs to be less ability for maliscious software on the internet to interact with OS-critical files.  Ever had a virus embedd itself in your "System Volume Information" folder? Ya know: the folder that the admin running the OS doesn't even have access to but a virus does?  Inherent design flaws that need to be remedied, if you ask me.
  
  Don't get me wrong: XP's leagues ahead of the prior OS iterations but that doesn't mean I should abandon it for a eye-candy coated new OS that may offer the same vulnerabilities.

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  Who?

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  Who?

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  Rant on
  You dont seem to know much about the most computer users, most users want the kind of look Vista offers, they dont know or care about bloat. They just want something that looks cool.
  
  As for securety They Say it will be better, and what they are saying sounds good, but we will see how it come out.
  
  And what kind And what kind of web sites you going to that infect you computer? *, Wearz and other shady sites seem to be the place for that(why would you go there using IE).

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  Rant on
  You dont seem to know much about the most computer users, most users want the kind of look Vista offers, they dont know or care about bloat. They just want something that looks cool.
  
  As for securety They Say it will be better, and what they are saying sounds good, but we will see how it come out.
  
  And what kind And what kind of web sites you going to that infect you computer? *, Wearz and other shady sites seem to be the place for that(why would you go there using IE).

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  I was disappointed to see features that have been adopted by Apple MAC OS ages ago, with the funny gadget thingy which looks like yahoo widgets
  widgets.yahoo.com . I am the only guy that supports windows in my company where all management now uses Mac OS, and looking at this video makes me feel that I should also switch to Mac OS, hence I will always be ahead in technology which MS is going to pick up in 2 years time
  

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  I was disappointed to see features that have been adopted by Apple MAC OS ages ago, with the funny gadget thingy which looks like yahoo widgets
  widgets.yahoo.com . I am the only guy that supports windows in my company where all management now uses Mac OS, and looking at this video makes me feel that I should also switch to Mac OS, hence I will always be ahead in technology which MS is going to pick up in 2 years time
  

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  I had the same issue, I visited a website using IE and although I am a network admin and should know better, without clicking any links my computer was completely overtaken by browser hijack, which would not get removed, and finally had to spend two days rebuilding my system at work.
  Can MS concentrate more on security issues caused due to having much more market share then Mac and not be bothered about replicating MAC look and feel.

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  I had the same issue, I visited a website using IE and although I am a network admin and should know better, without clicking any links my computer was completely overtaken by browser hijack, which would not get removed, and finally had to spend two days rebuilding my system at work.
  Can MS concentrate more on security issues caused due to having much more market share then Mac and not be bothered about replicating MAC look and feel.

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  I am so looking forward to getting the search features that I alreday have on my OS X laptop onto my Windows Desktop. The Direct X rendering should free up my processor, just like XGL has on my Linux box and how OS X did with Postscript desktop rendering! It is going to be great to have IE7 and finally have suque browsing like I already have with Firefox too! Oh and to see Yahoo Widgets integrated into the OS like they did with OS X will be great!
  
  Finally, Windows will be able to do all the cool stuff OS X and Linux have been doing for the past few years...You know...maybe I should just buy an XBOX 360 for games and use Linux or Mac as my primary OS. Yes. This is a good idea.
  

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  I am so looking forward to getting the search features that I alreday have on my OS X laptop onto my Windows Desktop. The Direct X rendering should free up my processor, just like XGL has on my Linux box and how OS X did with Postscript desktop rendering! It is going to be great to have IE7 and finally have suque browsing like I already have with Firefox too! Oh and to see Yahoo Widgets integrated into the OS like they did with OS X will be great!
  
  Finally, Windows will be able to do all the cool stuff OS X and Linux have been doing for the past few years...You know...maybe I should just buy an XBOX 360 for games and use Linux or Mac as my primary OS. Yes. This is a good idea.
  

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  Actually Windows Vista is an infrastructure heavy release of Windows.  We have a new feature called User Account Control (UAC) which stops exactly what you are describing. 
  
  What happens is that even a user in the Administrators group don't run with Admin rights when they login. This means the applications they launch can't do things like write to program files, system directories for parts of the registry.  If an application wants to do something administrative it must request elevation.  This in turn shows a secure dialog that asks the user if they want to run the application with higher rights. 
  
  IE7 Actually runs in a mode called low rights.  Which means that it can do even less operations.  We take security very seriously and have spent a lot of time making Windows Vista the most secure OS.
  

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  Actually Windows Vista is an infrastructure heavy release of Windows.  We have a new feature called User Account Control (UAC) which stops exactly what you are describing. 
  
  What happens is that even a user in the Administrators group don't run with Admin rights when they login. This means the applications they launch can't do things like write to program files, system directories for parts of the registry.  If an application wants to do something administrative it must request elevation.  This in turn shows a secure dialog that asks the user if they want to run the application with higher rights. 
  
  IE7 Actually runs in a mode called low rights.  Which means that it can do even less operations.  We take security very seriously and have spent a lot of time making Windows Vista the most secure OS.
  

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  How would you know! 
  

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  How would you know! 
  

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  Look and feel is one thing but the search and usability is very cool. The live preview pane is killer. I will upgade without question.

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  Look and feel is one thing but the search and usability is very cool. The live preview pane is killer. I will upgade without question.

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  This is BS its just a MAc os rip off. you would think with all the money MS has they could hire someone with some creativity to create something new

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  This is BS its just a MAc os rip off. you would think with all the money MS has they could hire someone with some creativity to create something new

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  Until seeing this demo, I didn't realize that Vista was allowing the video hardware via DirectX to accelerate the Desktop ... gamer style !!!
  Looking forward to the transparent/3D windows
  Though some features are on Mac glad to see that the Windows world will have them too
  Vista plus VMware (to guest other O/S'es) will be quite a combination ...
  Great vidcast !

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  Until seeing this demo, I didn't realize that Vista was allowing the video hardware via DirectX to accelerate the Desktop ... gamer style !!!
  Looking forward to the transparent/3D windows
  Though some features are on Mac glad to see that the Windows world will have them too
  Vista plus VMware (to guest other O/S'es) will be quite a combination ...
  Great vidcast !

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  Most of the time the video wshows the HOSTS, NOT what's happening. How about focusing the camera on the VISTA SCREEN next time

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  Most of the time the video wshows the HOSTS, NOT what's happening. How about focusing the camera on the VISTA SCREEN next time