NAB Day 1: Smooth Streaming released, Partners, 1080p in SL3, new VC-1

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    phil77

    Sonds all great, but when will the New Smooth-Streaming VC-1 implementation goodness become available for Expression Encoder users? Do yo have some beta VC1 Encoder SDK with sample code that you can make available for MSDN Premium subscribers?

    Thanks,
    Phil

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    phil77

    Sonds all great, but when will the New Smooth-Streaming VC-1 implementation goodness become available for Expression Encoder users? Do yo have some beta VC1 Encoder SDK with sample code that you can make available for MSDN Premium subscribers?

    Thanks,
    Phil

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    benwaggoner
    Phil,

    There's not a beta of Expression Encoder 3 available at this point.

    We'll certainly be looking to make these improvements widely available, but this is just an advance taste of what's going to be coming down the road a bit.

    -Ben
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    Andreas

    @Ben,
    What is the time frame for making it the encoding narrowly and/or widely available?
    Will you allow encoding cloud services to provide encoding (like flix cloud) so that we will be able to have a one stop shop for our encoding needs? Smiley

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    Andreas

    @Ben,
    What is the time frame for making it the encoding narrowly and/or widely available?
    Will you allow encoding cloud services to provide encoding (like flix cloud) so that we will be able to have a one stop shop for our encoding needs? Smiley

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    benwaggoner
    Andreas,

    We've got a number of vendors demonstrating Smooth Streaming encoder at the show right now. So support will be widely available this year.

    We'd be happy to see cloud encoding services using Smooth Streaming, of course. I'm not aware of anyone announcing that yet, but I think we're got a very compelling technology for cloud-based delivery among others. Being http based makes things much easier in that market.

    -Ben
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    hoyty76

    I had a quick quality question on the 1080p24 stuff.  For right now the maximum bit rate consumer media is Blu-Ray at 15-30 Mbps for 1080p24, that is 3-5 times the 6 Mbps you mention above.  Is the Silverlight VC-1 the same as Blu-Ray VC1, meaning is the quality for streaming much lower?  Alternatively are you taking advantage of the much higher CPU / GPU power in a PC to enable higher compression and higher quality at lower bit rates?  Thanks for any info or pointers.

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    hoyty76

    I had a quick quality question on the 1080p24 stuff.  For right now the maximum bit rate consumer media is Blu-Ray at 15-30 Mbps for 1080p24, that is 3-5 times the 6 Mbps you mention above.  Is the Silverlight VC-1 the same as Blu-Ray VC1, meaning is the quality for streaming much lower?  Alternatively are you taking advantage of the much higher CPU / GPU power in a PC to enable higher compression and higher quality at lower bit rates?  Thanks for any info or pointers.

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    benwaggoner
    hoyty76,

    It's an evolulution of the work we did for HD DVD/Blu-ray but with some further enhancements since then. Smooth Streaming can use a longer Group of Pictures (distance between keyframes) than Blu-ray, which offers some encoding advantage. But we could get roughly the same quality in a Blu-ray encode if needed at the same bitrate using the same new techiques. There's nothing about this stream that would be harder to decode than a Blu-ray stream; it's actually a lot lighter-weight given its much lower bitrate.

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