Chris St.Amand and Jeff Stucky - Debugging Microsoft.com

The Discussion

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  more traffic than slashdot...   LOL!

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  jamie wrote:

  more traffic than slashdot...   LOL!

  
  
  Maybe Microsoft should slashdot, slashdot....
  
  

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  I wonder how many times Jeff Stucky got stuck while debugging sucky code.
  
  - Steve

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  More traffic than Slashdot? Is that C9's idea of understatement!

  (Microsoft.com is the #4 website on the internet, behind Yahoo, MSN, and Google)

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  lol... 'this is a very recent build of longhorn'.... error, error, error...

  'are we gonna be able to show IP addresses?'  ... 'we'll worry about that later'; lol

  Scoble, I dunno if you had your saturation/luminocity settings off or what, but that bald guys' head was unusually shiny, particularly around time index 22:30.
  

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  At around the 34min mark you mention how newspaper sites let you view old newspapers and if it's possible to view old versions of the Microsoft website.  This is apples and oranges, BUT you can view old revisions of Microsoft.com (all the way back to 1996).
  
  The archive of old MS is at:
  http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://microsoft.com
  
  They don't go to the very beginning but you can view the original MS design (infamously known as the Death Star design) from 1994 at:
  http://www.useit.com/papers/1994_web_usability_report.html

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  I really want to feel this new networking stack, the performance, everything.
  

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  DevilsRejection wrote:

  I really want to feel this new networking stack, the performance, everything.

  While I haven't seen any preliminary benchmarks chances are the benefits pay off for high performance servers, I'm sure it has only a small increase for standard servers.
  
  IOW unless you're server is pushing hundreds of transactions (ex: web hits) at the same time, you'll probably never notice the improvement.
  
  The real benefit I'm sure relates to multiple small transactions, not a couple large transactions.  Often the bottleneck in computers is not throughput, but in the starting and stopping process.
  
  But honestly I'm still excited because it will put to rest the whole argument that compare Linux & BSD to Windows when it comes to transactions per second, especially in the web world.
  
  Finally, I'm sure you'll need a 64bit platform to even get the full benefit.

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  where do Microsoft get their weeds? i want some! perhap Microsoft should Microdotte Slashdot!

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  This just appeared on Slashdot.
  
  
  Get ready...
  
  

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  yes, i hope Microsoft is ready for a lot of idiots shooting off their mouth with comical comments.
  
  

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  Don't worry, I have a big stick.
  

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  Here's Microsoft's secret weapon.
  
  
  1. a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 2. a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 3. a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000003.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 4. a0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 5. a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 6. a000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 7. a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 8. a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001337.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 9. a0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 10. a000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 11. a0000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 12. a0000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com March 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 13. a0000000000000000000000002.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 14. a000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 15. a000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 16. a000000000000000002.ms.a.microsoft.com March 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 17. a000000000000000003.ms.a.microsoft.com October 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 18. a00000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 19. a0000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com March 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 20. a000001.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Linux
  21. a00001.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 22. a0001.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Linux 23. a001.ms.a.microsoft.com February 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 24. a01.ms.a.microsoft.com October 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 25. a1.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 26. a10.ms.a.microsoft.com September 2003 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 27. a100.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 28. a1000.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Linux 29. a101.ms.a.microsoft.com January 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 30. a102.ms.a.microsoft.com March 2002 Akamai Linux 31. a103.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 32. a104.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2002 Akamai Linux 33. a105.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Linux 34. a106.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 35. a107.ms.a.microsoft.com February 2002 Akamai Linux 36. a108.ms.a.microsoft.com May 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 37. a109.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2002 Akamai Linux 38. a11.ms.a.microsoft.com February 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 39. a110.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Linux 40. a1112.ms.a.microsoft.com May 2003 Akamai Linux
  41. a112.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2003 Akamai cache servers at La Villette Linux 42. a1122.ms.a.microsoft.com May 2003 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 43. a1123.ms.a.microsoft.com July 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 44. a113.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 45. a1132.ms.a.microsoft.com February 2002 Akamai Linux 46. a114.ms.a.microsoft.com July 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 47. a116.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 48. a118.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 49. a119.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 50. a120.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 51. a1201.ms.a.microsoft.com October 2004 Akamai Technology Linux 52. a1204.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 AKAMAI - Streaming Media Linux 53. a1205.ms.a.microsoft.com July 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 54. a1206.ms.a.microsoft.com July 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 55. a121.ms.a.microsoft.com March 2002 Akamai Linux 56. a122.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 57. a123.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 58. a124.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 59. a125.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 60. a126.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only
  61. a127.ms.a.microsoft.com July 2003 AKAMAI - Streaming Media Linux 62. a128.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 63. a129.ms.a.microsoft.com February 2002 Akamai Linux 64. a130.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 65. a131.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 66. a132.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 67. a133.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 68. a135.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 69. a136.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 70. a137.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 71. a138.ms.a.microsoft.com July 2003 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 72. a139.ms.a.microsoft.com February 2002 Akamai Linux 73. a141.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 74. a142.ms.a.microsoft.com February 2002 Akamai Linux 75. a143.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 76. a144.ms.a.microsoft.com July 2003 Akamai Technology Linux 77. a145.ms.a.microsoft.com July 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 78. a146.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 79. a147.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 80. a148.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai
  81. a149.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 82. a150.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 83. a1500.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 84. a1516.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 85. a1576.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 86. a1828.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 87. a2.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 88. a200.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 89. a2000.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 90. a2010.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Linux 91. a2020.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Akamai Linux 92. a2040.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 93. a2046.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 94. a2047.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 95. a21.ms.a.microsoft.com October 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 96. a23.ms.a.microsoft.com February 2002 Akamai Linux 97. a24.ms.a.microsoft.com October 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 98. a50.ms.a.microsoft.com September 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 99. a500.ms.a.microsoft.com June 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 100. a51.ms.a.microsoft.com October 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux
  101. a510.ms.a.microsoft.com October 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux 102. a592.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2001 Akamai Linux 103. a684.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 104. a720.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Technology Linux 105. a936.ms.a.microsoft.com November 2002 Akamai Linux 106. a99.ms.a.microsoft.com September 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux
  

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  I like how 10:14-10:18 zooms in right on Chris's keyboard as he types his password. Even with just using windows media player on cntl+shift+s it takes a lot of the guess work out of the password.
  Especially with a little help from our friends from UC-Berkley.
  
  Also, I like 12:32,  "so we'll avoid showing ip address... haha we'll have to cut that part out..." like the large 207.46.16.30 address looking at us in the face and then seconds later the 3 ip addresses in clear view on the right.
  
  "So we have terminal server access to all the servers in the data center, right.". Right, well I wonder how may of those servers, whose IP addresses we just saw, are attached to Chris's login and password.
  
  [6] Ready, aim, proxy.
  

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  Traffic ranking for slashdot is 801 and Microsoft.com is at 7th position
  
  According to alexa, the top 5 are
  
  01. Yahoo.com
  02. msn.com
  03. google.com
  04. ebay.com
  05. passport.net
  
  http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_500

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  sudhakar wrote:

  Traffic ranking for slashdot is 801 and Microsoft.com is at 7th position
  
  According to alexa, the top 5 are
  
  01. Yahoo.com
  02. msn.com
  03. google.com
  04. ebay.com
  05. passport.net

  
  
  Yeah, and MSN.com and Passport.net might as well be Microsoft anyway, so that gives them a very large slice of the world's web traffic over the whole company.
  

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  who wears a Montreal Canadians shirt in public?? I mean COME ON!.
  

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  People who are smarter than you. I'd expect MS.com to crash every 2 seconds if it were run by an idiot Leafs fan.  
  

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  CoreVX wrote:

  People who are smarter than you. I'd expect MS.com to crash every 2 seconds if it were run by an idiot Leafs fan.  
  

  
  
  HAHAHAHAHA, LEAFS!!??? HAHAHAHAHA.  I can understand why you would jump to such a conclusion, but before you make assumptions and start handing out insults like that, you might want to be a little better informed.
  
  Oilers all the way... well, at least to the playoffs this year.
  

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  cyber_rigger wrote:

  
  Here's Microsoft's secret weapon.
  
  
  1. http://a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com/" target="_blank"> a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com http://a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001.ms.a.microsoft.com" target="_blank"> December 2004 ADSL endpoints NAT conections only Linux 2. http://a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002.ms.a.microsoft.com/" target="_blank"> a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002.ms.a.microsoft.com http://a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002.ms.a.microsoft.com" target="_blank">
  [......]
  http://a720.ms.a.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">.a.microsoft.com http://a720.ms.a.microsoft.com" target="_blank"> November 2002 Akamai Technology Linux 105. http://a936.ms.a.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">a936.ms.a.microsoft.com http://a936.ms.a.microsoft.com" target="_blank"> November 2002 Akamai Linux 106. http://a99.ms.a.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">a99.ms.a.microsoft.com http://a99.ms.a.microsoft.com" target="_blank"> September 2003 Servers at La Villette Linux
  

  
  
  Anyone else thing it odd that MSFT web servers would be running Linux instead of IIS?

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  MS uses Akamai Company solutions for hosting some of their web resources and it's possible they use linux.

   

   

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  What you've found is an internet caching service, not a traceback to a Microsoft.com server. Microsoft.com uses out of the box IIS 6, 64 bit servers. Same stuff you can use. Ditto for Myspace.com and many other high volume, high availability sites.
  -brett
  

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  More traffic than Slashdot? Is that C9's idea of understatement!