Kim Cameron - Identity Laws

He is not only the head of a $300 billion organization, but is personally worth >$10 billion. Yet he really looks very passionate about what he's doing and the company. Maybe it's just his personality, but I'm astounded. He sits down and talks to the video camera just like any other guy.
hes pretty funny ill say that
you always read about the banging of fists and clapping of hands etc - but you never really see it (except for the famous dance routine)
good work steve - thanks for talking to scoble and channel 9
get a blog - or maybe Vloging would be better for you - so people can feel slightly uncomfortable wondering if your a brilliant ceo - or a raving lunatic haha
I love the "Who are You?" you ask in the beginning Scoble
Lol.
Great work.
Lol, what happend when you asked him about blogs. He gets this energy kick and then starts talking normal agian?
Anyway, great interview. But who is this guy? =)
Best video yet. I haven't seen much of Steve and after seeing him on the video I can see why he is CEO.
On the subject of video length, recently I have been snoozing through the videos. I used to like the wondering nature of the content and I still love the human factor that brings, but a lot of the time now I wish some of the guys had prepared a little better
before you arrived with the camera. And that questions had more direct answers. I know you guys have a no editing policy, but maybe it is time to review that.
P.s I bet Bill feels leftout now that you have interviewed Steve. You don't want him to feel leftout do you!?
I think Steve Ballmer should do Microsoft keynotes at CES and other events instead of Bill. He has great enthusiasm which surpasses that of Steve Jobs and would help give Microsoft a much hipper look.
Keep up the good work Robert.
Steve411 wrote:I LOVE THIS GUY! He has a bunch of enthusiasm and energy, he's freaking hilarious too! Dude, YOU GUYS ROCKS! YEAHH!!
Steve Ballmer! Steve Ballmer! Steve Ballmer!
Steve Veselinovic!
Orbit86 wrote:Monad is copying Unix\Linux.
Beer28 wrote:Wow, I only have 3 words after watching.
executives, Executives, EXECUTIVES!!!
LarryOsterman wrote:
Orbit86 wrote: Monad is copying Unix\Linux.
Umm You haven't been paying attention to Adam's blog, have you...
Monad's a totally different paradigm for a shell than anyone's ever seen - yeah, it's vaguely like the various *nix shells but its ability to composite complex structures is totally new.
If someone built a shell out of mock-lisp, it might be similar...
scobleizer wrote:m00n1: It was supposed to be longer but his schedule got cut so we only had 10 minutes. But, I'm getting feedback to make our videos shorter and tighter, so we'll work on that.
I thought Longhorn was the future...scobleizer wrote:DownUnderGeek: it only looks the same if you ignore the Tablet PC and the Media Center (not to mention XPSP1).
We have to get Longhorn out first. Then we'll talk about what we'll do in the future.
Tyler Brown wrote:I thought Longhorn was the future...
scobleizer wrote: DownUnderGeek: it only looks the same if you ignore the Tablet PC and the Media Center (not to mention XPSP1).
We have to get Longhorn out first. Then we'll talk about what we'll do in the future.
scobleizer wrote:Transcript:
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j0217995 wrote:I will have to disagree, so much of open source work is done to make it work/look like something MS does. Everyone wants the GUI to look enough like Windows to reach the masses. Everyone tries to makeit as easy as Windows, etc.
A lof of copying, and improving. Improving security and stability of things that MS and other non-OS companies do.
Orbit86 wrote:
the reason they switched to the NT kernel from the 9x because people were using linux because it stop crashing on them every few hours,
Orbit86, the NT kernel exists since 1989. Nice try spreading FUD.
Orbit86 wrote:the reason they switched to the NT kernel from the 9x because people were using linux because it stop crashing on them every few hours,
Loadsgood wrote:Steve Ballmer is the biggest freak I have ever seen. What the hell is up with that guy? His energy is shocking. He's like a kid trapped in a fat guy's body.
I wish he would go fully bold though, that Mr Burns hair cut isn't doing him any good. "Halo 3" eh? Pretty sweet. Too bad you couldn't show us the view out the Windows, maybe a Buzzcast would be better next timeYou should've acted as if you turned off the camera but left it recording and asked him what he truely thinks of Bill Gates...
"Who's Bill Gates?" - Steve Ballmer.
Loadsgood.
10 minutes of Steves time is worth a lot of money.
What you should have asked him was "What will Longhorn be called?" because I bet Steve, Bill and a very small few others know exactly what it will be named.
I'm sure they have a handfull of names to choose from, from Windows 2007 to eXPedition but I bet theyre already set on one of them.
How far between the beta or Release candidates and the RTM of XP was there for the code name change of Whistler to XP title? Will we first hear of it during PDC? or early next year during the RC stages? As the marketing team and graphic designers all need
time to start designing logos and branding to be ready for this time next year. Let alone the guy who needs to run a name check through the code to change any longhorn references to the new title. Does the M in Project M give something away? I'm sure longhorn
server will be called Windows Server 2007. Im sure Internet explorer in Longhorn will be called Internet Explorer 7 Enhanced, but what about Windows?
Can anyone guess What words begin with M that would fit the bill?
And no more softball questions. Go straight for the Barbara Walter ones.scobleizer wrote:Good questions! I'll definitely come back to this thread next time we get some time with Steve.
DouglasH wrote:
Blackcomb will be the first version that fully implements the vision. layed out in a platform called cairo in 1995 although it has greatly expanded from that time.
Not to belittle LH, it is like the middle film in a trilogy![]()
douglas
scobleizer wrote:>When is Billgs interview coming Robert?
He wants to do one but getting on his schedule is harder than getting on Ballmer's. Hopefully soon.
Orbit86 wrote:I don't know whats wrong with people who want 9 minute videos, he Didn't even say anything in very detail..
Hi guys how are you? My name is Vincenzo and I am Italian. I write from Sheffield (UK) where I study marketing. I was watching Steve Ballmer interview. He positively impressed me. He didn’t look like a CEO, it was like I knew him since a long time.
Actually, at first Steve Ballmer looked like my uncle Nicola in Italy and I said “UNCLE NICOLA IS MICROSOFT CEO AND I DIDN’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?! He can probably help me with my dissertation!” But then I realised that it wasn’t my uncle. I will have to cope with this sorrow for the rest of my life, eh eh eh J
Joking aside I enjoyed the interview. As marketing student I have to appreciate Ballmer natural communication skills to promote his company. Also, I think it is great when a CEO finds the time to listen to his employees especially in a big company like Microsoft. I
would like to add something to what Ballmer said about innovation. I think that innovation is not only interactive television, messenger, live communicator and the real-time stuff. Don’t get me wrong guys, these things are important. But they cannot be the
only form of innovation we value. I make an example. During the master in marketing that I am currently attending I have participated to a project with IBM UK. We have studied the technology that IBM has developed to help people with disabilities (blind, hearing
impaired, with a low vision and so on) use IT applications that we can all use today. I think that this technology doesn’t have a great impact on IBM revenue but still is “technology that matters”…to society. It is still great innovation. Ballmer said about
IBM "I don’t think they’ve done much interesting at all”. Mr Ballmer let me disagree with you. I think that technology that helps people with disabilities is very interesting. I don’t work for IBM and, believe or not, I have no interest to promote this company;
yes I am studying this company for my dissertation but I consider myself a free thinker like you guys.
By the way, I like your blog. Keep it up guys and hope to participate more to the discussions on channel 9 eh eh eh eh eh J
Vincenzo Graziano
I am a Mac OS X user and was once a Windows user (up to 98, although I've fiddled with XP). It's not that I dislike Windows. I simply like Mac OS X better. This is just to state that I am not particularly pro-MS (and neither I consider myself anti-MS). In any case, those two apps were already far in development before MS acquired them. In relation to Virtual PC, neither Connectix, VMWare Inc or MS invented hardware virtualization, so giving more credit to VMWare than to VPC is, IMHO, unfair (VPC is here since 1997, no idea about VMWare). In relation to Acrylic (formerly Expression), if you consider it to be competition to Photoshop, you simply have used neither professionally. Both serve different ends and might even complement each other. I do grant you, though, that acquiring Expression seemed to lead to killing any further development for the Mac OS version (read Apple & Logic or Shake…). I still have hopes, since Acrylic is in beta stage. And I do agree with you that MS had and still has in many areas that strategy. It's just that I do not think those two products are representative for that. PS:Excuse me for the lack of formatting. No idea why it is happening…Orbit86 wrote:what I hate from MS is that they create to kill other competitors.. Acrylic - Photoshop Virtual PC - VMware
Orbit86 wrote:they don't lose because they have a monopoly...
Nata1 wrote:
>what tough questions would you be asking the CEO of Microsoft?
Apart from that question, nice interview.
IMHO, tough questions are:
- How can I make sustainable business on your platform over the next 3 - 5 years?
- What are models for me to collaborate and compete with your 50,000+ workforce?
BTW:
Maybe in the future, could you post some of those hilarious BillG and SteveB videos they show at the company meetings?
DigitalDud wrote:
Nata1 wrote:Hey guys - we got SlashDotted ![]()
Slashdot has a lot of nerve linking to a video stream. It seems like the only purpose of Slashdot is to conduct distributed DoS attacks and then belittle the content.
scobleizer wrote:Transcript:
Q: On the blogs there are those who say that Microsoft doesn’t innovate anymore. Can you give us some examples of where you see innovation?
A: I think we’re doing a ton of innovative work. If you take a look at the stuff we’re doing with interactive television I think it is super innovative. I think the Tablet stuff has been a little slower to take off than we had hoped, but I think it’s super innovative stuff.
Orbit86 wrote:I hope the Borland guys are seeing their .NET technology succeed
Rory wrote:Mr. Ballmer -
That was a very pleasant interview. I rather enjoyed it. I work for your company, and I'm very proud to do so.
Also, if you could make me the boss of the entire Windows divison, I'd appreciate it.
Otherwise, it was very cool of you to spend a few minutes chatting on video.
Sincerely,
- Rory
- http://www.neopoleon.com
Look, ICQ was innovative. I used to use it, it was great, but it turned into a steaming pile of confusing, messy cow-dung. For a long time I resisted MSN Messenger until it simply evolved into the superior IM client. It's just a fact. Steve was talking about the innovation they are doing with Messenger now regarding presence and integration across the whole range of Microsoft solutions. Not just simply IM.Visual Studio happens to be a fantastic development environment, there's nothing that can touch it.Why do people always draw these spurious analogies? You don't invest in the construction of your car, or learn its design to help you drive it better. You don't need to consult the developer documentation at carmarker.com to help you build better tires. A car is a car. Software is totally different.And *shock*...a car is closed development, how dare they! (I need to watch my language)'s! I'm going to watch the War of the World anyway.Orbit86 wrote:you actually think MS creates everything? LoL...the MS PR staff brainwashes everyone...what did MS actually create? ..Msn Messenager..innovation? it does the same thing as AIM,Yahoo does...the only reason that you use office,visual studio,IE is because microsoft has a direct connection with the customer..unlike other companies that don't...you ever notice why there are numerous major car companies but one dominant OS?..don't tell me its by choice....
Orbit86 wrote:Visual Studio is not the best development platform out there, thats why some MS devs use Eclispe. thats why Microsoft didn't write longhorn on .Net, the only reason people choose Windows(or forced) is because thats the only OS they know..I can assure you the entire windows Development community doesn't use Visual Studio.
"you don't invest in construction of your car"..
hmm thats why they sell aftermarket parts..?
ICQ..I used ICQ..just because it went downhill ..and I don't think it did doesn't make it crap..heck Win9x was crap but the user was uneducated to alternative oppurtunities..the only reason Windows is still around because the Customer isn't educated into what other OS's they are..
eventually Open Source will win, it is impossible for it to loose..it only takes one major desktop manufacture to set the market free..Dell looks liberal..heck he could wake up one day and say "#$@# MSFT!!, im selling linux,apple OS on my website" ..then HP,Gateway says "look dell is doing it, we have to stay competitive"...
"the resistence always wins"
Orbit86 wrote:..Avalon huh? I hope Toyota sues them for using the name...
scobleizer wrote:>I hate from MS is that they create to kill other competitors..
I don't look at it that way.
Microsoft works like an anthill. We go toward food sources (money). Or, look at it as customers asking for more features. If we add features to our products that customers want they'll buy more.
I see it as chasing the money. It's good business.
Look at the auto industry. General Motors had an awesome month due to a "buy your car at employee pricing" promotion. Now everyone else is doing it.
It happens the other way too. Why do many distributions of Linux look just like Windows? Why is Apple working on an Office Suite?
Orbit86 wrote:Microsoft recognizes Java? but with .NET isn't every application able to do that already?
Microsot unofficially answered this question months ago but I forget where I read it, but it was straight from the MS OS teams. MS has already said they WILL release Longhorn in late 2006 and they will remove (more) features if neccesary in order to make this timeframe. Balmer does not have some magic date just sittng on his desk that the public doesn't know about. If you have ever worked (or watched) developement on a large project you will see how difficlt it can be to forecast a magic date. MS is hoping on sooner than later, and if they can finish Longhorn in August 2006, then they will be wasting everybody's time if they told everybody Nov 30th. It's better to just answer the question in quarters and let the project decide when it will be done.Minh wrote:How long will Longhorn take to go mainstream?
As far as your "platform that wins" question, I think you are looking at Windows Server frm a very narrow view. The only reason 2003 Server is a "platform that co-exists" now more so than previous OSs is because MS finally has the time to add more bells and whistles to their NT5 kernel, becuase MS spent all their time developing NT4 and 2000 Server just to do everything it needed to do, and not enough time to add "what would be nice". I'd also like to point out that NT4 had support for Unix compatibility (something with printing) and 2000 added even more support with better integraton with a Novell network (which 2000 has quickly replaced anyways).Minh wrote:MS seems to be moving towards stadards more these days, has MS given up on the "platform that wins" (obviously on the server side) and going with platform that co-exists?
Orbit86 wrote:TOP SECRET
New Longhorn Features not known to public :
http://www.tomshardware.com/column/20050711/index.html
what part of "don't touch my computer" don't you understand?
Orbit86 wrote:I would ask him what real innovative software did Microsoft ever create..
Msn Explorer was funny.."Windows Messenager" another attempt to monopolize the market..
scobleizer wrote:The Slashdotters gave me some heck about that, though. So next time I'll have to ask some go-for-the-throat type of questions just to show I can ask those. But, I bet the answers would turn out the same.
Orbit86 wrote:he is CEO because he met Bill Gates in Harvard...
scobleizer wrote:m00n1: It was supposed to be longer but his schedule got cut so we only had 10 minutes. But, I'm getting feedback to make our videos shorter and tighter, so we'll work on that.
scobleizer wrote:Unfortunately in today's world there are security
The "take home" message of the Steve Ballmer video is that the next 10 years, for developers, will be as good as or better than the last 10 years. It is left to the viewer to decide what "better" means. Perhaps it means more interesting work. Perhaps
it means higher volume of work in general. Perhaps it means increased gross receipts for developers. What Mr. Ballmer thinks when he thinks "developer" remains a mystery. What aids to developers Microsoft plans to offer over the next 10 years is unspecified.
I come away from his brief comments with the same confused, "what was THAT all about?" that I used to experience at half-time when coach would give us a pep talk.
Nevertheless, it is extremely good to have the big cheeses honor us with a few comments. I don't think this qualifies as a contribution to the still missing dialogue between Microsoft management and developers, but it is a start. (I know, management believes
there is an ongoing, long-term, in-depth dialogue that makes the world safe for innovation. In my neck of the woods, the means to advise Microsoft management is non-existent.) Good show!
Orbit86 wrote:the market share
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Orbit86 wrote:correct ..I'll laugh at microsoft when they release office for linux or visual studio for linux and remember the time when they shunned the OS and its devs...
they are probably taking source code from linux and putting it into longhorn right now...!!!!!!
If MS does change their mind one day that's a good thing, not a bad thing nor a sign that they don't know what they're doing. It would just prove they realize they need to adopt to meet the market's demands (which they have done MANY times in the past).
If you're going to take the time to post, at least make it intellectually stimulating. Call me a stickler but posts like these are borderline flaming imho, nothing productive comes out of them.
I agree, It's nice to see top-level management in-tune with what's really going on as well as actively interested in it. I met with a couple of PGs a few months ago out in Redmond and I was amazed at how willing everyone was to sit down with you and ask "what do you think of this", or "how can we improve..." It was very interesting.
Does this clause apply to the SFU/SUA teams as well?
scobleizer wrote:>they are probably taking source code from linux and putting it into longhorn right now...!!!!!!
Did you know it's a fireable offense for anyone working on Windows at Microsoft to look at GPL code? So, I doubt it.
Orbit86 wrote:I don't know why Linux code is cancerous if Windows got the reputation of having BSOD and crashed all the time..disk defragmentation..Apple has like 1 anti virus program..
Orbit86 wrote:what..you got the smart devs but can't develop your own stuff..
Orbit86 wrote:I don't know why Linux code is cancerous if Windows got the reputation of having BSOD and crashed all the time..disk defragmentation..
Orbit86 wrote:
Apple has like 1 anti virus program..
Orbit86 wrote:
I don't think you would have to buy new hardware..it can run on regular Intel machines....
Orbit86 wrote:the development systems were able to run Windows XP on it...
Nata1 wrote:Orbit your the most annoying guy around, even over that beer guy. But I like having the whiners without a cause around for some reason, even though I only read about 1 out of every 100 of your words.
The whole "this is the internet, it's ok to be an arse" is a weak point at best. But I dislike the oversensitive types just as much as you do.Orbit86 wrote:unlike you I don't come here to make friends, I don't care what you think about because this is the internet and I come here for the videos not the idiots that post
Orbit86 wrote:btw beer28 is a smart guy, it's that people on here just use personal attacks if they don't agree with you..(IE:zealots)
Microsoft didn't buy Python. And it's up to OTHER people to add their language to .Net. Lately there are 40+ languages available for .Net and the majority of them weren't implimented by MS.Orbit86 wrote:will we ever see Python.Net in VS? doubt it because its not MSFTish, thought they bought it from the guy who made it..
Well this post has had a more than normal amount of users because it's actually been one of the best video's we've seen for a long time and people were hoping for some decent stimulating conversation on the topic. Obviously people can't help but read your posts. The worst part is that it appears your posts have thread capped this discussion. Perhaps you should add a disclaimer on the top of your post that says...Orbit86 wrote:who ever said you had to read my posts.. I said numerous times that I don't like Microsoft Business tactics..
DISCLAIMER: I'm about to poke fun of MS just for the sake of it, if you don't want to engage in flames and pointless abuse, please skip this message.
You can't expect everybody to know what what they're getting into by reading some of the garbage you typed. Heck if you had that disclamer on your posts, I would spend more time defending you against the other posters than attacking you myself because at least they knew what they were getting into and you were man enough to admit your biaseness against MS.
The fact you use their products don't mean you're not biased, I mean I am biased against ASP.Net 1.1 because I feel 1.1 wasn't ready for mainstream use until 2.0, but that's a whole different subject. I don't sit here and randomly interject something like
"What innovation, ASP.Net 1.1 sux!!!"
I shouldn't comment on this thread any further, I think we've all flushed it down the toilet pretty far by now.
He mentions the subject at:Nata1 wrote:Did anyone hear him say something about Business Intelligence?
You'd be surprised how many companies (including companies that need innovation in order to survive) don't want employees being creative because it wastes their money. The best example is Xerox (I work with an ex-Xerox employee) where they literally invented today's PC in the late 70s (mouse, networking, gui) and Xerox axed everything about the project except for the laser printer. The whole story is a good read as some people say that Xerox had the chance to become what Microsoft is now (and take their place) but as the story proves, their inability to see the future and acknolowdge that markets change crushed any hopes of Xerox becoming a big contender in the computer industry.Nata1 wrote:At IBM, you could have had the greatest idea in the world, but you had to keep it to yourself.
Actually both Google and MSN have already incorporated this type of AI already into their search engine. You can ask it most any factual question and it will return an answer. The first example that came to my head was asking both Google and MSN "How many people live in Texas?" or my second example "When was Benjamin Franklin born?" in Google and MSN. Please note this type of information is NOT hardcoded in the search engines, it's extrapulated from parsing websites.Nata1 wrote:I remember at the 2001 PDC in LA, the Research guy ... typed in "where is Osama Bin Laden" and the result he got back was "in a cave in afghanastan".
Now that was pretty frickin cool, combine a search engine with AI like that, god knows what they're working on now, but it sucks that thing never made it into the product groups (yet)
Another neat feature most people don't know about is Google's book search trick (this is different from
Google Print, a project I'm also really hyped about).
When in Google type "books about keyword" and you will get a special list (top 3) of books on that item and the keyword does not have to be in the title or category of the book. If you search for
"books about textbox" you will get .Net books (and some java).
Sorry MSN, you're still falling short here.
Nata1 wrote:I'd love to shake that guys hand - like the guy who invented the paperclip - in my lifetime if I came up with a 'paperclip' ...
mVPstar wrote:
Nata1 wrote: I'd love to shake that guys hand - like the guy who invented the paperclip - in my lifetime if I came up with a 'paperclip' ...
Surely you're not talking about clippy, right?
mVPstar
leighsword wrote:"Not did the rest of the world copy Chinese inventions, they claimed that they were the first to invent it. "
--- Temple Robert<The Genius of China 3000 years of Science, discovery, and invention>
Greater Monster wrote:
leighsword wrote:"Not did the rest of the world copy Chinese inventions, they claimed that they were the first to invent it. "
--- Temple Robert<The Genius of China 3000 years of Science, discovery, and invention>
I'd say. Although you might want to widen it somewhat to include the rest of Asia, espicially when it comes to philosophy.
Anyway, we (Europe/the Western world) did it to ourselves. Not wanting to start a social-theological debate, let me put it this way:
the lid was closed on science, philosophy, spirituality and art, the achievements of the Greeks denounced
and it took some time until renaissance freed Europe from the chains the clergy put it.
They showed the Greeks were way ahead of us, even after 1500 years because of stagnation in the 4 fields I mentioned.
Had that not happened, flying to Alpha Centauri would be considered a daily commuters routine.
To a degree I have say that the concept behind clippy was innovative, but the implimentation absolutely was not.Nata1 wrote:whoever made clippy, that was Not innovation !
leighsword wrote:yes,absolutely you(Europe/the Western world) did it to yourselves,but we(China/the East world) affect what you did.(search "who invented the paper and printing").the communication is a way to affect the Western world,the Silk Road.
Today,you(Europe/the Western world) affect us(China/the East world) in many fields include you meationed.
balmer_the_young_and_foolish wrote:
Pimp Daddy wrote:
balmer_the_young_and_foolish wrote: I all I gotta say is humble beginnings:
http://www.albinoblaksheep.com/flash/sellswindows.php
An all-time classic! Who can resist the temptations of the Cardfile and Reversi?
There have almost always been people amongst developers that have considered Microsoft to be secret about their development. (Like the preMicrosoft time, IBM where to developers)
I think that Steve have realized that openness is the best proven practice to stick with.
To belong to a group fulfills a very basic human need.
That is vital for any successful longtime biz.
All major companies have enthusiasm and innovation drive in the beginning, and as the company gets bigger the communications get more and more restricted. Historically that will always lead to a downturn and in the end… The End.
When I look at a successful company I almost always see a CEO that recognize the end customer, and understand that communication, both internally and externally should be as open as possible.
When the leaders of a company stop communicate because of focusing on the top tier customers, the company won’t hear the day to day facts presented from the lower tier customers. And when that happens the days are numbered for that company.
It seams that Steve have understand that and acknowledges both his own developers and the external community developers.
The way Microsoft does this is historically unique.
Historically it was impossible to communicate with lower tiers customers as the company grew.
Now Microsoft uses blogging, Web seminars, Video presentation, FAQ, Third party vendors and Cannel9 etc.
I really believe that Microsoft can continue to be THE major Software Company for a very long time to come.
I’m usually not that pro Microsoft but I can’t help acknowledge their passion and striving in the right directions.
Go Steve!!
Regards
TheSWELinker
Wowza, I've never seen or heard Steve Ballmer in real life, and was taken a bit back by his energy.
Talk about contrast to Bill Gates eh!
cheers
tom
DouglasH wrote:
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Sometimes I wonder what would LH would Look like from an OS point of view if it could fully innovate. If it could truely come out and say that from an OS point of view. Legacy support is not guarenteed. Dos 1.0 to 6.22 will not run in the platform except in a virtual machine.
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Douglas
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