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VS 2005 - Service Pack or next version?

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    Rossj

    Does anyone know who we should be asking to find out whether all of the bugs in 2005 will be fixed in a SP or whether Microsoft really expects developers to wait for the next version of the product?

    Following on from Irascian's thread it is fairly obvious to most people that VS *really* wasn't ready for release .. I was just wondering whether anyone in Microsoft is going to comment, and tell us how they're going to put it right.. 

    I'm starting to think this isn't 'fit for purpose'...

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    Tom Servo

    Were there ever service packs for the previous versions of VS.NET?

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    blowdart

    Tom Servo wrote:
    Were there ever service packs for the previous versions of VS.NET?


    2002 had one. 2003 didn't, although there was a patch for sourcesafe.

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    W3bbo

    Tom Servo wrote:
    Were there ever service packs for the previous versions of VS.NET?


    The venerable Visual Studio 6, which lasted us from 1998 through to 2002 (a good 5 years!) had 6 service-packs over its life.

    I still feel Visual Studio 2003 was more like SP1 for Visual Studio 2002.

    My money says there will be a VS2006 too.

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    Tom Servo

    Longhorn will be out 2006. Can you say Orcas?

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    dotnetjunkie

    No, your question is answered over here:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/eric/archive/2005/11/04/489108.aspx

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    Tyler Brown

    According to this blog entry, there will be service packs for both Visual Studio 2003 and Visual Studio 2005.

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    BryanF

    I've been playing with the express editions and so far I'm really impressed. I don't have the many to put down for and of the higher-end editions, so I haven't been able to judge their quality. There is a part of me, though that wonders if VS2005 is really so much buggier than previous releases of if it just seems that way because of the level of transparency we've been given this time around. I'm not trying to discredit the critics, but it's worth asking how bad this release is compared to other products. Very few software projects ship without *any* bugs, so the question is how does the number / severity compare in relative terms.

    Any thoughts?

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    David7738

    BryanF wrote:

    I've been playing with the express editions and so far I'm really impressed. I don't have the many to put down for and of the higher-end editions, so I haven't been able to judge their quality. There is a part of me, though that wonders if VS2005 is really so much buggier than previous releases of if it just seems that way because of the level of transparency we've been given this time around. I'm not trying to discredit the critics, but it's worth asking how bad this release is compared to other products. Very few software projects ship without *any* bugs, so the question is how does the number / severity compare in relative terms.

    Any thoughts?

    The number of known bugs is not remarkable. This list of known bugs will only increase until most if not all bugs are found. Microsoft does seem commited in reducing the number of bugs and given the size and complexity of the studio(s) have done a creditable job. And a much better job (IMHO) than in previous versions and I"ve been using Microsoft Complers since pre-MFC days.

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    JChung2006

    I wonder if they've started working on Orcas SP1 yet, haha.

    It is interesting to have a company announce its first service pack a week after a product goes live.  It would be like Ford announcing their 2007 line and the recall dates on those 2007 models at roughly the same time.

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    irascian

    JChung2006 wrote:
    I wonder if they've started working on Orcas SP1 yet, haha.

    It is interesting to have a company announce its first service pack a week after a product goes live.  It would be like Ford announcing their 2007 line and the recall dates on those 2007 models at roughly the same time.


    I think they did the right thing. The blogosphere was filling up with people complaining that Microsoft never released Visual Studio service packs and it had the potential to turn into a PR disaster, overshadowing the public launch events.

    FWIW the bugs that were most worrying (lockups!) all appear to be in the area of Intellisense getting confused and going into 100% CPU loop. Reading a couple of appropriate blog entries (or bug fix responses) to discover the workarounds to stop this happening should ensure your experience with VS2005 is nothing but pleasurable.

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