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    Devils​Rejection

    I take no credit for this at all, I found this thread while surfing the Neowin forums and thought this would be cool to share with the C9 community.

    What do you guys think?

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    Hey Guys!, Take a look at my Start Menu Mockup smile.gif

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    Like the new and redesigned Start Menu?

    I hope you do smile.gif

    Ok, there is my Mockup of Windows Vista tm Start Menu. But, I didn't do it just cause I felt like doing a mockup, I've got my reasons that I would like Microsoft to look at (feedback):

    First off, let's say that Vista will ship with Avalon graphics environment and the other stuff, blah blah yeah, let's not be so technical here now (We are exited woohoo! tongue.gif); so for some reason, I was looking at all the nice glassie effect within the Windows and Icons and all other, and I said "why not having a totally NEW and redesigned Start Menu with Glass effects?"

    So I had numbered a few questions users ask everyday: (even went to bed late just cause of working on this biggrin.gif)


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    - Why the Windows Start Menu keeps being so complicated today?

    - This Excellent Mockup could be the answer to this!





    Q: - It'd be good to have the Start Menu Simplified. First off there is no more "Right Click/ Properties / Start Menu / Customize / General "Programs" > Clear List" way. That is A PAIN in the arse. Simplified:

    Don't you feel like you get bored with all the recent softwares in your start menu "recent applications list" ?

    A: Well, that's why the new Start Menu has this button:



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    It's simplified, right next to the Search bar. You just have a few pixels to walk to get there, click on it, it would ask "Are you sure you want to delete your recently opened applications history?" "Yes" PUFF! done smile.gif Goodbye long long bored old way...

    Q: - What about having a much simpler StarMenu, by remembering how old Windows like 98, or even 2000 had? What about that long way to change from my "XP Start Menu" to a good old "Classic Start Menu"?

    A: - Well, there is no more long runs for that anymore either.... Do you remember how you had to "Right Click / Properties / Start Menu > select "Start Menu" or "Classic Start Menu" ? That is over:

    There won't be any switch from new to classic. "Classic" has been there, waiting for you, along with "New". They have just united each other to simplify your things. Once you click on the "start" button, you will get a nice looking "Classic Version" of Start Menu, which is at the same time the newest and much nicer version ever! - Why this? There will be a bar at the edge of the "classic-New Start Menu" for you to just click and "expand" the new Menu options. Something like this:



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    And what do you get when you open up the expansion panel? Well, all of the Windows XP Start Menu options, including "My Computer", "My Network Places", "My Documents", "Control Panel", "Printers and Faxes", "Help", and a few others that you might be able to "add" by right clicking on "that panel" and just checking the Icons you would want to show up there. smile.gif nice huh?

    So then, that panel would be fixed, meaning there won't be ways it would get bigger if you add more icons... why? well we don't like huge things, so it would show up a tiny "navigation button" just below the last showing icon, so you can scroll down/up the other ones that are not visible in the panel. Something like this:


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    Another option along with this "expansible" extension will be the "Quick Action Buttons"



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    (however it could be called lol)


    located in a little nice taskbar looking-like panel, in where you will have easy access buttons like "log off", "shut down", "restart"... there is no more "shut down / Open Window with differen options to choose / Shut down.."; all what you will see is A BUTTON TO SHUT DOWN. A BUTTON TO RESTART, ANOTHER TO LOG OFF, AND SOME OTHERS TO HYBERNATE/STAND BY... Right, there won't be more weird "Shut down Window / Choose what you want to do". You just click the button of the action you want to take, it would ask you if you are sure you want to do that (maybe something like "Are you sure you want to "Restart"? If you click "Yes" your computer will restart inmediatly; please save all your data and documents before procceding.")

    Now, in case you want another buttons to appear in that "Quick Action Buttons", you can just right-click "that panel" and choose within the options which button to enable and which one not to... just as if they were checkmark options... then the panel resizes itself to fit the buttons of your choise smile.gif

    Q: - And what about that Top Part option of the Windows XP Star Menu in where you can add your own programs so they stay there as if they where "Favorites" along with the Default ones that you use to do simple things like "Navigate online", "check my e-mail" and stuff?

    A: - That is so easy with this newest and simplified version of the Start Menu smile.gif

    Here let me explain this:


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    See that image? Ok, that's what the new "Top Part" as you call it, would look like. Let me call it "New Quick Launch Buttons". There might won't be "application drag n drop" in that panel as it is in the current Windows XP start menu version... why? Because it would come with like up to 5 positions to configure. Let's say you will have up to five icons showing up in that panel that you can configure, either throught right-clicking them, or by the Control Panel applet > "Set Program Access and Defaults". Once you are on the configuration part of let's say, the "Internet Quick Lauch Button" a list of currently installed "Web Browsers" would show up so you can choose which of the Web Browsers that you have installed will be used as the DEFAULT one for all of your Internet Navigation stuff. Then that Icon can again, show up there in the new "Quick Launch Buttons", thus replacing the icon of the Web Browser you had as default before. (ex: the Mozilla Firefox Icon would show up instead of the Internet Explorer icon...).

    Now, you still have four more icons left, what would they be used for?

    Well, simple things that users like doing a lot everyday once they sit in front of their computers; things like "Checking the Calendar for Meetings and other stuff", "Reading and writing e-mails", "Loggin into their Instant Messenger application to talk with their friends/families"... those are simple things that user would like to have in that part of the New Start Menu... Wouldn't it be great?

    But that is not all.. Back to the neat effects found in Windows Vista, it will have scroll left/right buttons so you can navigate throught all of your "Quick Launch Buttons" options; again applying there one of the nice and unique Windows Vista effects!

    Q: - Ok, there is one more thing I would like them to get rid of:

    The User Image showing up on the Start Menu.

    A: - Oh even you would like that option to go away! Nice so here is what the new Start Menu would include:

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    the newest and simplest way to let the user know "he is who he think he is"... So whenever you are wondering if it's you who is logged in your windows, you can go to start menu and open the expand panel; right on top of the main icons, you can find your Username, in a even nicer and simpler way, without the picture junk that only takes useful space in the Start Menu bar.

    Now, if for some reason you still wanna see your user picture, you could easly do it by toggling "on" an option within the Start Menu Properties, that would act like this:

    "Show my User Picture when I pass the cursor over my Username in the Expandable Panel".

    Good huh? smile.gif that would apply for those who still want to have user picture showing up on the Start Menu.


    Now here are a few full previews:


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    What do you all think about my Mockup? Please feedback and rate if required, thank you! smile.gif


    (I wish this could be interesting, and that if it turns to be that way, that MS could get interest in doing something like that... cause it does looks better than the old XP fashioned Start Menu...)


    Note:

    None of these information, names, images, and brandnames if any, are Microsoft products, unless it's name is registered under their copyrights (such as Windows, Vista, Windows Vista, Windows Start Button, the Start Menu, and the Windows® Logo). This is not direct Microsoft Information, and such information should not be used to give any further information to users over the internet, as such information is not true or actually being used for ANY Microsoft Product Development Project. This is just a custom creation from a Windows User, like any other, and it's under its own rights to delete and/or modify. None of the "features" mentioned in this Topic, are actual Microsoft Products being developed, unless they are undisclosed Projects. Should this information from this Topic not be taken as real facts and/or any future Windows ™ Vista™ upcoming Feature. This is just a CUSTOM DESIGN. MICROSOFT has not worked on this and this is not any user interface advance feature on ANY Windows™ Code-name "Longhorn" current, older, or newer released build.

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    W3bbo

    I wouldn't use it, it requires more than 1 click to go anywhere.

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    Cybermagell​an

    Personally I like it alot!

    Now just talk the UI team into implementing it Wink

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    Devils​Rejection

    I messaged this guy at neowin, trying to get him to come to the C9 community.

    And W3bbo, it won't need clicking. It'll work like the start bar you have now, with hovering.

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    Devils​Rejection

    Damn I like this guy, check out his next post addressing usability:


    Thanks guys for your comments and suggestions... IF there is something I'd have to change I will....

    Now let me clear some concepts a little better so you all can understand a few things that might wer not clear enough - cause I DID Think about workflow all of the time... So I'm guessing a few "workflow" enhancements weren't explained well enough :



    - The "Quick Launch Buttons" (Top Part of the Start Menu) -

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    The scroll left/right buttons are NOT clickable buttons in fact. I made it thinking of a "mouse over trigger" - once you put the cursor over any of the arrows it would move to that way.

    As you can see, that panel would have as I said, 5 Quick Icons. However that is just a suggestion, it could have an option to add more icons in it. Its like the "Favorite Icons" part of the current Windows XP, but with "nicer" effects, and maybe better "workflow", only because of the fact that if you would add FIVE icons into that favorite icons part of the Windows XP Start Menu, it would go extremelly HUGE, and that cuts off space of your desktop once you open up the start menu.



    - The "Back Button" (Actually a Vista Start Menu Feature) -

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    Of course you have somewhere to go "back". Remember that right now (as the picture shows) you have clicked the "All Programs" button... so it had turned to show all the software you have installed and their shortcuts. Once you click back you will be back to the "frequently Used Programs History". I made it that way since that feature is really simple and saves a lot of time looking throught application shortcuts, and I didn't want to change that option, since it offers good workflow.



    - The new "Expandible" Panel -

    One thing that I thought of is that, for the User to have a simple looking menu, does not have to go throught so many right clicks and options navigation like in Windows XP actually. So, by just clicking the "expand" button to hide the expanded panel, you would have a easy to use Start menu, without all the junk on it; thus DISABLING and deleting FOREVER the option to switch from Classic to New Start Menu, and even sinc that task is really painful. The option to switch from a New to a Classic Menu is now ONE click away.

    Now, I didn't do the expanded panel thinking that everytime you come to the start menu you have to click it to open it. That's why I'm reffering to it as a "Switch" from a "Classic-looking" version of the Start Menu, to a "New-Full Version" of it.

    A "Switch". It means that once you click that button to have the expanded panel showing up, it will leave it there, even thought you click the start button again, logoff, restart or even shut down your computer, to again "hide" it only if you click the "expand button" again.

    Pointing to some other comment one of you guys made. The fact that a lot of "unexperienced" users would not even dare to click the "expand button", does not mean that they will not find it:

    Microsoft has made a good reputation abut "teaching" the users how to use their new things. Windows Vista, could have a lot more tips to show the users new features, from the first time they install their new OS, than any other Windows OS version ever made. How hard would it be to add a Tip Windows that pops up the first time you click on your Start Menu once you install your Windows Vista OS version, telling the user about the new feature of the "Expand Button". Even I could make that tip...


    It could look something like this:


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    its just a concept to strenghten the "Expandible Panel" feature . . .


    Hope it clears out some concepts of "workflow" smile.gif more comments! Let's see if we can get to have the "Perfect" Start Menu for Vista! And then give the feedback to MS! biggrin.gif

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    W3bbo

    DevilsRejection wrote:
    I messaged this guy at neowin, trying to get him to come to the C9 community.

    And W3bbo, it won't need clicking. It'll work like the start bar you have now, with hovering.


    Even then, it's hiding things from the user, requiring effort to show them. It adds no new functionality, this is obviously the work of someone using Photoshop who thinks they know how to produce "good" interfaces.

    Hardly.

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    Manip

    Not as user friendly... People have to learn which buttons shuts down, locks and logs-off; that is never a good strategy... Users are stupid they don't want to have to learn a new system, they either want the status-quo or something so blindingly simple that no thought is required.

    Plus no real user would ever find any of the tasks at the top except those that appear when you click start, which means Internet, E-mail and Calander... It is like Google and not existing on page 2, because 98% of people only look at the first page of results and then change their search... Same thing on the desktop.

    And the button that allows switching between "Simple" and "New" ... Well what happens when a user accidentally switches to 'New' and can't find how to switch back? That is another call to technical support....

    I once got called because in Windows ME the useless "Welcome Screen" had been disabled at startup; apparently even if they didn't use it, having it not appear each time you start the computer was a terrible blite on their existence. I wonder why XP doesn't have a Welcome Screen today? Wink

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    Devils​Rejection

    Well I'm not telling MS to blindly copy this dudes ideas, just to use it as an example of what a customer thinks is "cool" and unique.

    We all saw the November CTP screenshots with that horrid bubble start icon, it means microsoft is still experimenting wit their UI. i just want someone from the UI team, or anyone who works at microsoft to check this guys idea out and to take some hints from it.

    everyone at neowin loves it, as do i.

    And Manip you know how huge a change the XP start bar was from 98. just like the big change that is due from xp to vista. users will learn to pick it up.

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    Cybermagell​an

    DevilsRejection wrote:
    Well I'm not telling MS to blindly copy this dudes ideas, just to use it as an example of what a customer thinks is "cool" and unique.

    We all saw the November CTP screenshots with that horrid bubble start icon, it means microsoft is still experimenting wit their UI. i just want someone from the UI team, or anyone who works at microsoft to check this guys idea out and to take some hints from it.

    everyone at neowin loves it, as do i.


    SCOBLE! Wake up...(who cares what time it is in Europe)...

    You know UI people...we know "UI desires" *ahem* Or maybe if someone from the UI team can come on C9 and say why they've stuck with the same design year after year after painstaking year.

    People imagine Vista to be new...give them new! People wont leave Windows because of a new start button. Also the more experienced users will probably be switching to Vista first...so they wont mind.

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    Manip

    DevilsRejection wrote:
    everyone at neowin loves it, as do i.


    I mean this is the nicest possible way, but I think that speaks more about
    the kind of people visiting Newin than it does about the actual design.
    Most of whom have WinBlinds installed and are easily classed as power users.

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    Michael Griffiths

    It requires too many actions to get anything done.

    Clicking, hovering, etc - it's all the same: waiting.

    There are minor things to nitpick over, but those are things of personal choice - like the Shutdown/Logoff buttons only visible in the expanded menu, or the limited number of programs available in the top horizontally scrolling area, or how easy it would be to accidentally click on the "Clear Recently Used Programs List."

    However, I do notice that it's very, very similar to many of the "Custom WinXP themes" that Windowblinds supports.

    I don't think it's a good "default," but I imagine that theme would be very popular with the theming enthusiast.

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    Devils​Rejection

    This is what my current start bar looks like, crud but useful.


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    Michael Griffiths

    Cybermagellan wrote:
    You know UI people...we know "UI desires" *ahem* Or maybe if someone from the UI team can come on C9 and say why they've stuck with the same design year after year after painstaking year.


    There's no reason to drag UI people out to answer questions, unless they want to participate. (And a blog post would probably be a better place to do it... actually, what about a permanent URL that mimics a blog post for Channel9 posts? Hmm.)

    That out of the way...

    Change for the sake of change is annoying. People don't like it.

    I imagine that everyone who visits this site is willing to spend 2-3 minutes figuring out how something works. And, actually, most of it will be 100% intuitive: after enough time dealing with computers, they "make sense."

    However, the average person doesn't do that. They might think "I wish I could do XXX", but they're not going to assume it's possible - the thought stops there. No "I wonder how to do XXX" etc. This is because (1) people are too busy and (2) people don't care and (3) people really hate farting around with that sort of thing.

    The Start Menu has remained consistent for, I would venture to guess, a few reason: (1) A menu system can only be implemented in a limited number of ways, and none of the alternatves are very good, (2) people would be initially frustrated by the change, (3) any change many would not make a substantial difference to the user experience, (4) a fair amount of effort went into the original system, and a lot more testing to tweak it, so the current implementation is as good as they're going to get.

    I would venture to say that changing the appearence of the Start Menu to symbolize that Vista is "new" and so everything has "changed" is something Apple would do. Good for marketing purposes, perhaps, but no really solid advantage.

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    Devils​Rejection

    This guy is on a role

    He made a thread where people can try the above mentioned UI:


    Desktop Codename: RxStart™ Beta

    1st. pre-Beta ready for 'Beta Testers'


    Content -

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    Hello to All.

    My name is Jaziel, Graphic/Web Site Designer, Cisco Certified Network Professional, IT entusiast, Pelco® Certified Installer, "Visual Studio. Net" -unexperienced- Programmer, and a bunch of other junk you might don't even want to know about. This quick intro is to let you all know something about myself real quick. As some of you might know, I made a mockup of the current "Windows Vista" Start Menu. Here is the link for those who hasn't seen it yet:


    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=393717


    As you can see, countless people liked the "Mockup", of which "countless quantity" of them might want to have this as the final "Windows Vista" Start Menu desing. Of course that cannot happen, unless Microsoft already saw my Mockup and they are currently trying to do something close to it. Though, countless people (again) criticized it in both good and bad ways, which still is "good" feedback (to me though) that such "Mockup" could not be implemented in a OS cause it does not have enough "Workflow" or let's call it some other way, "Clarity". It is clear, but it is not "clarifying" the real concept of Windows Vista, which is what this OS's main concern seems to be.

    That's what they said between a few other things like "Oh sweet! - God I like it! - Damn! - Wow - Looks good - Its Ok - Em? - I would use this Start Menu" and other stuff.

    Well I really want to say thanks to all for their feedback, and also I would like to present the FIRST beta release of this "Mockup" Project, as a real fact, actually being developed:




    The Desktop Codename: RxStart™




    Screenshots:


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    Description:

    A Desktop X Environment fully loaded with a custom Start Menu, custom Task bar and Sidebar. This Desktop is based on the new "Windows Vista" look and feel. It conbines both the design and flexibility of the new beta OS from Microsoft "Windows Codename: Longhorn". Thought this is an early "BETA" release, it will include a load of rich content and widgets to make it a "Real" fake Windows Vista under Windows XP.

    the purpose of this theme is to Replace your Windows XP environment with the new "Windows Vista Aero Style" so you can feel like if you were using "Windows Vista" at the moment.

    This theme would only load with Desktop X from Stardock, so you might want to install it in order to beta test it.


    Included Features in this Build:


    - New Stat Menu based on the following features:

    * Windows Vista™ Aero Style.
    * Windows Vista™ New "Glow" and "Blur" Effects.
    * Expandible and Configurable "Main Icons" Panel.
    * "Quick Action Icons" for rapid "Shutdown/Logoff" Options.
    * "Quick Launch Icons" Panel to easly acess your favorite applications.
    * More features "might" be inplemented as future builds are released.

    - New Taskbar based on the following features:

    * "Unofficial" Windows Vista "Rounded" Start Button.
    Note: The "Rounded" STart Button is an "unofficial" feature, meaning
    it might not come with Windows Vista, as it might just be a"Mockup"
    made somewhere else but at Microsoft's labs.
    * Windows Vista™ Aero Style.

    - New Sidebar Gadget based on the following features:

    * Most features available on the "Official" Windows Vista™ Sidebar
    might be implemented in this "Windows Sidebar" Gadget.

    - A "pre-beta" Gadget version of the RxStart Lite Project (Lite: does not include the Taskbar and/or Sidebar. This was suppose to be the main project).


    Features NOT Included in this Build:


    - New Stat Menu under-development features:

    * Windows Vista™ Start Menu's Search Bar.
    * Start Menu "All Programs" Feature Inplementation.
    * "Quick Action Icons" Commands are disabled, or not configured.

    - Windows® Sidebar® "Gadget".


    - Availabilty of a "Windows® Vista™" Stlye for Windows® XP™.


    - Full Desktop Inplementation with System Controls.



    Please note that this is a pre-beta and it is buggy, as any other Beta would be. Only around a 25% of the scripting is done, and the graphics may be in early releases. It is suggested to changes and/or even the total modification of its features and designs.

    Please report your bugs in this Thread and help me make this, more than just a good looking design, an usefull project to any one who would like to use it.


    Link to Download:

    user posted imageDownload Desktop Codename: 'RxStart' Beta.



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    Included in this Package:

    rdvista_startmenu_r1106051142x86.exe
    RxStart.035rxstart.051108-0732x86.exe
    Release Notes.txt
    1024.desktop
    1152.desktop
    1280.desktop
    Screen1.PNG
    Screen2.PNG
    Screen3.PNG
    Screen4.PNG
    Screen5.PNG
    Screen6.PNG


    NOTE: This release is only available in 3 different resolution sizes:

    ."1024 x 768" - "1152 x 864" - "1280 x 1024".

    Please ONLY use the file that fits with your Screen Resolution.


    Please support my work and effort. Thank you!

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    Devils​Rejection

    Someone give this guy Sparkle and an office lol

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    Cybermagell​an

    I'm gonna give it a shot

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    Devils​Rejection

    Cybermagellan wrote:
    I'm gonna give it a shot


    It requires desktop x 3 if you saw the screenshots. post some feedback with some screenshots!

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    MasterPi

    I'm with W3bbo, it requires too many steps.

    Nothing should be "hiding" in the start menu because users (especially new users) look to the start menu as their starting point.  How will users know a feature's there if it's always hiding?


    Also, I think the way it's implemented is a bit backwards. I'd rather have My Computer, My Docs, etc.. visible first when I open the start menu and an available list of programs as the collapsing menu. 

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