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so how does Sparkle / "EID" feel?

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    androidi

    The first thing I tried was what Tim Sneath suggested here:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2006/01/24/516706.aspx

    I have to say that the feeling of control, power and making previously difficult things so easy feels awesome!

    What I find also impressive is how fast the thing starts during subsequent loads (libs in memory). Faster than Photoshop on my laptop! The rel notes suggests that drivers older than 2004/11 use software rendering and since there is no newer drivers for my laptop except in Vista perhaps, I'll leave further comments about that to point where I am sure the graphics are rendered in hardware.


    I think this is truly a revolution in designing and developing UIs for apps and web atleast until the adware makers start using this (I have Flash disabled). Big Smile


    Question: There's some tool which shows the WPF controls in different colors depending on whether the area is hw/sw rendered but I forgot the name/location?


    BTW. What were they thinking with the names? EID is better than Sparkle? The full name is just too long to use until IE has built in autocomplete that replaces EID with the full name. Tongue Out


    BTW2. If you only have personal web space at provider using Apache as their server but would like to host your EID/WPF demos there, adding the following lines in the .htaccess file in the same directory as your project is deployed will allow it to work nicely without having to bother the admins:

    AddType application/manifest manifest
    AddType application/xaml+xml xaml
    AddType application/x-ms-application application
    AddType application/x-ms-xbap xbap
    AddType application/octet-stream deploy

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    Cannot​Resolve​Symbol

    So far, I love it.  Good work!  Seems suprisingly fast here after that first run, it's just a little sluggish after a cold boot.  Maybe a splash screen (something like in Acrylic, nothing fancy or animated or even in WPF as that is part of the load time) would be helpful there as some kind of launch feedback.

    I'd like to see the controls Sparkle uses in my own apps as well.  Some straightforward way to change the visual style would be nice (there may be one I haven't found yet, though).

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    mclement

    CannotResolveSymbol wrote:
    So far, I love it.  Good work!  Seems suprisingly fast here after that first run, it's just a little sluggish after a cold boot.  Maybe a splash screen (something like in Acrylic, nothing fancy or animated or even in WPF as that is part of the load time) would be helpful there as some kind of launch feedback.

    I'd like to see the controls Sparkle uses in my own apps as well.  Some straightforward way to change the visual style would be nice (there may be one I haven't found yet, though).


    Hey there,

    OK press F1

    > Controls

    ... you can then look at the styling help


    Everyone: F1 is your friend Smiley ... pretty much everything is easy to do, just read up the nice and concise help topics!

    I hope this helps.

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    Cannot​Resolve​Symbol

    Yeah, I've got styling figured out (I read your answer on the other thread).  So far, I'm pretty impressed by the sheer power available, and it seems suprisingly responsive for a first-CTP of a demanding application.  Good work!

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    littleguru

    Hmmm... One thing that makes me always think is that the controls in the tool are not standardized. Even the menu has a different color then the standard windows menus...

    That's very strange and seems like Java in the beginning.

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    androidi

    androidi wrote:

    Question: There's some tool which shows the WPF controls in different colors depending on whether the area is hw/sw rendered but I forgot the name/location?



    Answering myself, the Perforator tool is in the WPF hands-on labs.

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/building/presentation/hands_on_lab/default.aspx

    And yes it seems the only available & working non-Vista drivers to this laptop are not new enough so everything is rendered in software - thus the 90% cpu in milcore with single rotating ellipse with a gradient.

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