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    leighsword

    I used to think .NET would be a cold blood killer of our Application developers before, now I have chanaged my mind after wacthed Discovery Channel <the Big Bang>.
    At frist, you can see how much I hate the .NET before, through the following two graph.

    The Native Age
     ___
    |     |
    |     |
    |     |
    |     |
    |     |   -->  this field is the Application domain, that's our battlefield.
    |     |        (we need to know How should we do)
    |     |
    |     |
    |----|
    |////|
    |////|
    |////|  -->   this field is OS, Data Engine...
    |////|        (all we need to do is tell them What we want)
     ----

    The .NET Age (that's what I thought before)
     ___
    |     |
    |     |
    |     |   -->  this field is application domain, that's our battlefield.
    |     |          (be more smaller)
    |     |
    |----|
    |^^|   -->  this field is the current .NET framework,
    |^^|         you can see we lost tons of fields.
    |----|
    |////|
    |////|
    |////|  -->   this field is OS, Data Engine...
    |////|
     ----

    Einstein said the Universe is not static, it's expanded, so our field will be added continuously.

    The REAL .NET Age
     ___
    |##|
    |##|
    |##|
    |##|   --> this Application field is new added.
    |##|
    |##|
    |----|
    |     |
    |     |
    |     |   
    |     |
    |     |
    |----|   --> all of above fields is our Applicaion Domain(Is it cool?)
    |^^|
    |^^|
    |^^|   --> this field is the further .NET framework.
    |^^|
    |----|
    |////|
    |////|
    |////|  -->   this field is OS, Data Engine...
    |////|
     ----
    Yes, .NET is our friends, at least not our enemy.

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    BenZilla

    *GRABS HEART*

    WHA?!?!?!

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    footballism

    leighsword wrote:

    Yes, .NET is our friends, at least not our enemy.

    I have to say I don't understand your previous statement, but this statement is probably the only one I can get into:P

    Enjoy .NET. enjoy the future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sheva

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    Yggdrasil

    footballism wrote:
    I have to say I don't understand your previous statement, but this statement is probably the only one I can get into


    I think the general idea is not to look at .NET and see what it takes away from us (low-level, fine grained control) but what it allows us to do (focus on the application, not the plumbing).

    Basically, if you see the possibilities as endless, taking something away doesn't make them any less endless.

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    rhm

    Most bizarre post *ever*.

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    DoomBringer

    Good post leighsword.  I just view .NET as a huge set of APIs so I can get my work done faster.  The runtime is efficient enough for what I need. 

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    Cornelius Ellsonpeter

    Apparently, something must have happened to one of leighsword's colleagues to cause such a drastic change of attitude.  I'm going to guess that this "colleague" refused to use the .NET framework, and is "no longer with the company".

    So, how much time did he get in the ol' clink? 5, 10, 15 or 20 years?

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    Tom Servo

    I think he has seen a girl naked for the first time of his life, that must have grounded him.

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    UlsterFry

    rhm wrote:
    Most bizarre post *ever*.


    Let me translate...

    The way I see .Net is like car manufacture.

    When Ford build a car they don't create every screw,grommet, thingy-ma-bob on site, rather.. they reply on third party specialised suppliers, and then they bundle all the parts into a working (hopefully) car.

    So think of the framework,librarys as the third-party parts, and your application as the car, which.. in essence means us programmers are really just industrial robots.. ....  and now you know why the C9 guy's a robot! Expressionless

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    billh

    UlsterFry wrote:
    rhm wrote: Most bizarre post *ever*.
    Let me translate...

    The way I see .Net is like car manufacture.

    When Ford build a car they don't create every screw,grommet, thingy-ma-bob on site, rather.. they reply on third party specialised suppliers, and then they bundle all the parts into a working (hopefully) car.

    So think of the framework,librarys as the third-party parts, and your application as the car, which.. in essence means us programmers are really just industrial robots.. ....  and now you know why the C9 guy's a robot!


    .Net is a tool, just like anything else.  For most, it makes their development jobs a bit easier.  If you are working with embedded systems, it may not be appropriate at all.  If you want to putz around in assembly, you still can...although the chances of doing low-level work for a lot of general applications is diminishing, which I think was part of the point of the framework in the first place...to take care of some of the "low level" stuff.

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    Minh

    UlsterFry wrote:
    rhm wrote:Most bizarre post *ever*.


    Let me translate...

    The way I see .Net is like car manufacture.
    ...
    What about Einstein? So if this car is travelling at the speed of light, and then I turn on the head light... what do I see?

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    AndyC

    Minh wrote:
    So if this car is travelling at the speed of light, and then I turn on the head light... what do I see?

    Yesterday, or is it tomorrow, I forget...

    But leighsword finally gets .NET? Huzzah!

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    Tensor

    Waiting... for... punchline...

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    Cornelius Ellsonpeter

    You wouldn't "see" anything.  If you flip on the dome light, though, you might see that you spilled coffee all over the seat. I wonder what color that would be, though?

    What if you hit a stationary cat?! What color would that be?

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    PaoloM

    As Heisenberg says, if you can see the cat, you can't hit it. If you hit it, you'd never know because: a) sounds is obviously out of the question, b) gravity waves moves at the speed of light (so they say) and finally c) the extremely pissed off cat would have scratched your eyeballs out of your eye sockets and she'd currently playing with them on the car's floor.

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    Cornelius Ellsonpeter

    UNLESS the cat is in a box, as would be the case of Schoedinger's Cat.  Then, there is probably a 50-50 chance of Geiger counter going off before you hit the boxed cat.

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    JohnAskew

    Whoa, don't gulp green tea!

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    dotnetjunkie

    It seems time has arrived for a mental health forum on Channel9...

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