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Apple - YOU SUCK!

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    Manip

    <Rant> <Nonsensical Gibberish>

    I was sitting there listening to my music... As you do... And I thought to myself "Bored now, let's see what they have in the iTunes store."

    So I go, log on to the store, find some trash that I want and hit 'buy' and get some "random error 0x2834838" which means - "We have released an update" (it is Apple's secret code you see).

    So I download the update - 6.02.23 - which tells me to stop playback so it can update (I was using the WinAmp - iTunes plugin). So I stop playback. Let it update and don't restart.

    I reload WinAmp and to my surprise and annoyance whenever a high point in a song or music is hit (not sure what the actual 'criteria' is) the sound judders and shakes until you pause playback and then play again (which fixes it for a short time).

    So I thought to myself .. *OK no problem* and restarted....
     
    Same problem... But I thought, *HEY* I'm a big geek, I can fix this... But I couldn't. Not trying my own things, and not following Apple's support instructions and nor could I while messing with QuickTimes useless preferences dialog box.

    Everything else plays fine (MP3, OGG, WMA, CDA, et al). But anything encoded by iTunes breaks (CDs and Music Store files).

    So I thought *OK NO PROBLEM!* I'll downgrade... So I removed the new iTunes and found an older version on some site... But for some crazy reason the problem persisted.

    After reading the many support threads on this very topic from other Apple customers it appears as if Apple drops in a driver that it never removes, and which down-grading doesn't remove either.

    I contacted Apple with my concerns (listed above) and this is the reply I received:

    Apple wrote:
    Dear Customer,

    Thank you for contacting the iTunes Music Store.

    Audio files purchased through the iTunes Music Store are available in the
    MPEG-4 protected AAC audio format. These files are encoded at 128 kilobits per second (kbit/s). There are no other codecs or bit rates available from the iTunes Music Store.

    You cannot convert protected AAC files to other formats, including MP3. [...]



    Idiots. Why waste my time and theirs by not reading what I sent them?

    Guess what... Even if Apple fix this issue with their next release I'm going to have to reexamine my future purchases via the iTunes music store. If my music will 'randomly' break for unknown periods of time I'd just be better off with less music that I can rely on to work (Since when does music break?).

    PS - This is what happens when you give DRM technology a chance to work. It screws you over big time and you end up using the non-DRM-ed equivalent.

    </Rant> </Nonsensical Gibberish>

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    PaoloM

    Manip wrote:
    PS - This is what happens when you give DRM technology a chance to work. It screws you over big time and you end up using the non-DRM-ed equivalent.

    Yes. However, these things don't happen often enough to cause the proper reaction from the consumers (that'd be, stop buying media in proprietary formats)

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    SlackmasterK

    Does it normall sound good at 128Kbps?  I've always ripped at 160-192.  Then again, that was MP3...  How is this proprietary and inferior format other than your recent problem?  Have you tried to locate and remove this driver?

    And you're right... That's what you get when you trust DRM [, Apple, purchased music, big business [except MSFT of course]].

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    Rossj

    As much as I love Apple's products, I truly do despair of Apple's support.

    Given though that you are using a plugin for a different product, does your music still play okay in iTunes itself (rather than through the Winamp plugin)?

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    Stoo

    FYI -

    if your a geek, then I have to point out that you have some geeky malformed XML for your rant !!

    Tongue Out

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    Manip

    Rossj wrote:
    Given though that you are using a plugin for a different product, does your music still play okay in iTunes itself (rather than through the Winamp plugin)?


    Unfortunately not (I'm not even sure why I mentioned that). It sounds the same in iTunes, QuickTime and WinAmp (all three process the content within QuickTime I believe).

    I just discovered that Apple's video format (*.m4v) also breaks for the same reason (the video's sound).


    PS - Apple released version 6.0.3.5 today -- doesn't fix a thing. Mad

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    imekon

    If you play the music in iTunes, does it have the same problem?

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    Karim

    Manip wrote:
    PS - This is what happens when you give DRM technology a chance to work. It screws you over big time and you end up using the non-DRM-ed equivalent.


    Manip wrote:
    It sounds the same in iTunes, QuickTime and WinAmp (all three process the content within QuickTime I believe).


    If ripped music from CDs (.m4a) stutters like purchased music from the store (.m4p), then it's not a DRM issue, but rather a problem with Quicktime.  .m4a is just MPEG-4 audio (AAC).

    You could try the Quicktime Standalone Installer.

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    BryanF

    Have you tried playing the files on a different machine?

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    Ion Todirel

    check this out: http://itodirel.blogspot.com/2006/01/site-ul-zilei.html, why purchase music via iTunesMusic Store when you can download it for free: audiofind.ru. Use 2-3 VM's and you can download ...

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    die-Sel

    Yes they do suck. Its all about looking good with Apple. As long as it works. I have seen some apps the looks really sore on the eyes but they work and the business doent care about how it looks just as long as it does.

    now Apple have some nice designs, but the price they put on everything  is crazy.

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