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How much does it co$t to develop an app?

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    sgomez

    I'm at Uruguay and I was wondering how much does it cost to develop a piece of software around the world. I'm not talking about big companies but single-developer-software for small companies, let's say a shoe shop.
    Down here, if you get $15 an hour, it's a great deal.

    Also, is there a different "rate" for win, web or ppc???

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    PaoloM

    sgomez wrote:
    Down here, if you get $15 an hour, it's a great deal.

    My company bills my services at $120/hr. And that's nothing special...

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    Tom Servo

    And how much of that will be yours?

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    rjdohnert

    Do you have WGA and do you make your customers Activate the software Paola?

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    PaoloM

    Tom Servo wrote:
    And how much of that will be yours?

    Unfortunately, not $120 Sad

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    PaoloM

    rjdohnert wrote:
    Do you have WGA and do you make your customers Activate the software Paola?

    Paolo.

    And no, all the software I write (not too much these days, but my devboys are very good Smiley ) is not productized.

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    PaoloM

    Anyways, the point is that $15/hr is unheard of in Canada.

    My clients usually have large budgets, so they have no problems in paying those rates for years. If, on the other hand, you do some one-shot contract work, your rate may be adjusted depending on the client.

    It could go from $0/hr (volunteering or non-profit organizations) to $50/hr (friends, very small clients) up to IBM levels.

    I am honestly ashamed of typing IBM's consulting rates.

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    littleguru

    Hi Paolo, are you still living in Italy? I bet no. I have never got here (.it) such much money for my dev work. It's around €15. Should I consider to ask more? I guess... what did you get when you were still in .it?

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    SlackmasterK

    Having noticed the numbers on this thread, I think I'll be increasing my priority to learning C#. 

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    blowdart

    SlackmasterK wrote:
    Having noticed the numbers on this thread, I think I'll be increasing my priority to learning C#. 


    Heh. I won't say what I get billed out at (it varies, but it's always high). I'd say being able to demonstrate full life cycle, and front/middle/back layers, as well as specs, design and project manager, that's when the big money starts coming in.

    That, or specialise and get something like MVP status. I know someone who does very very well off that Smiley

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    Steve411

    25$ p/h +. 1,000 starting price on freelancing projects. Been going strong.

    - Steve

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    sgomez

    Ok, so I know Paolo is from Italy, where are you from Steve?

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    Steve411

    sgomez wrote:
    Ok, so I know Paolo is from Italy, where are you from Steve?


    USA.

    - Steve

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    sgomez

    not bad... not bad at all

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    PaoloM

    littleguru wrote:
    Hi Paolo, are you still living in Italy? I bet no. I have never got here (.it) such much money for my dev work. It's around €15. Should I consider to ask more? I guess... what did you get when you were still in .it?

    No, I moved from Trieste to Victoria BC, Canada in late 1998, following a cute little readhead that now is my wife Smiley

    I guess it all depends... when I was in Italy I had an established network of clients for my cosulting activities. In those cases you have two ways of billing: fixed price or time & materials.

    Fixed price means: you want this done, I will do it in x months for y money. If I finish earlier, good for me, I'm getting money without doing work; if I'm late, I start losing money. This is the main billing method for web development work, usually. It also is the one where you can change more by hour and pad the final amount because there's a lot of risk involved.

    Time & materials means: this is where/what you want to get, I'll stay with you until we get there. This is similar to a long term partnership and you bill according to a standard living wage. You get less money by the hour, but you don't run the risk of working for free.

    That said, in the early 90s I managed to bill a couple of jobs at L. 120.000/hour. I was pretty thrilled with that, but the client was a leasing company. They had money coming out of their ears...

    I wouldn't work for 15 euros/hr, but that's just me and my 43 years of age talking Smiley

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    littleguru

    I will ask for more... We should always listen to older people Wink

    Thank you for your answer.

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