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Worst Microsoft Product?

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    irascian

    dotnetjunkie wrote:

    Haven't you installed the Office 12 beta?
    That limitation is NO LONGER there !!!


    Office12 is not a product that the average Office user can get hold of.

    It's a beta.

    A techincal beta.

    A limited availability beta.

    A beta that has problems in so many other areas it would be listed as a "worst product" in its own right if released to the public at large in its current form.

    The product that real people in the real world have to use has the limitation that w3bbo pointed out.

    Of course, whether that limitation really makes it one of the worst Microsoft products is a whole different kettle of fish.

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    blowdart

    irascian wrote:


    For me the issue isn't Windows Installer it's Visual Studio's support for Windows Installer. Hacking tables and faffing around with Orca is ridiculous in this day and age. Silly limitations that aren't there in the underlying database structure make it a pain in the backside to use. Want introductory text on a dialog box that is more than three lines long? Sorry not unless you pay a small fortune for one of two "rival" products. 


    Well there is WiX of course. However the learning curve for WiX is somewhat steep if you've never had cause to think about the internals of an MSI. The other problem is in order to do anything graphical you tend to try to do it in the VS Installer project then decompile it out into WIX. But once you have your installer scripted adding to your msbuild project is easy, and then instead of xcopy deploys for daily builds you have an MSI and all is right with the world.

    It doesn't help they hide the Votive support for VS2005 though, you need to use the latest WiX V3 install

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    Rossj

    blowdart wrote:
    shooby wrote:
    ...tell you what, sell me your house for $1, then tell me I didnt steal it.


    Tell you want, why don't you start reading a dictionary then come back and tell us if you can find one which has your definition

    (Oh, and changing a wiki dictionary won't count, ok?)


    Don't feed the trolls please.

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    eagle

    Rossj wrote:


    Don't feed the trolls please.


    This thread is a troll.....

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    ZippyV

    blowdart wrote:
    Well there is WiX of course. However the learning curve for WiX is somewhat steep if you've never had cause to think about the internals of an MSI. The other problem is in order to do anything graphical you tend to try to do it in the VS Installer project then decompile it out into WIX. But once you have your installer scripted adding to your msbuild project is easy, and then instead of xcopy deploys for daily builds you have an MSI and all is right with the world.

    It doesn't help they hide the Votive support for VS2005 though, you need to use the latest WiX V3 install


    Wix v3 is not ready for production use yet. But you can use Wix V2 and Votive in Visual Studio 2005.

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    blowdart

    ZippyV wrote:


    Wix v3 is not ready for production use yet. But you can use Wix V2 and Votive in Visual Studio 2005.


    Really? The v2 votive plugs in nicely?

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