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Windows Vista Launch - November 2006

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    Andre Da Costa

    Quote:
    "This is the year. the year that Microsoft releases the newest version of Windows.  Yes, Vista will be released in November of this year.  So what is so compelling that our customers would want to spend money upgrading to the Vista operating system?  Let's take a quick look at all that Vista offers a small business."

    http://blogs.msdn.com/conblog/archive/2006/03/14/550826.aspx

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    ddewbofh

    Ahh, uniformed opinions expressed with an imagined sense of knowledge. Where would the world be without Troll 2.0...

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    arunpv

    shooby wrote:
    Hi Kiddies,

    Lets see -- what's really new.

    They changed the menu on the start button -- it doesnt say 'start' anymore. Check.

    They moved the search to the bottom of the new start menu. Check.

    Theres a quick search. Check.

    Theres new colors. Check.

    There are thumbnails on the task bar. Check.

    There are thumbnails in a rolo-dex thingie for active programs. Check.

    Excuse me, but 3 F***ing years for T H I S?

    Ok.  Well, I guess its worth 300 bucks and a half a week per user to upgrade.


    N  O  T

    I love you too.

    xx00

    shooby



    Inherit bugs from previous OS. Check

    Add more bugs and create multiple versions to confuse people. Check
    Think of something. Check
    Integrate MP/DSKSCH/Live stuff. Check
    Add .NET. Check

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    rjdohnert

    If they want it on new systems before christmas that date may be a problem.

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    Minh

    SURGEON GENERAL’S WARNING: Trying Beta Software Raises Blood Pressure & Propensity to Post Before Having a Coffee.

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    jamie

    "This is the year… the year that Microsoft releases the newest version of Windows.  Yes, Vista will be released in November of this year.  So what is so compelling that our customers would want to spend money upgrading to the Vista operating system?  Let’s take a quick look at all that Vista offers a small business.

    First, Vista is very easy to navigate and use. if you havent spent the past 10 years using other versions of Windows
    When you start using Windows Vista, you will recognize familiar elements such as the Start menu, which is now faster, more streamlined, and more helpful than in previous versions of Windows. The Start menu features integrated desktop search through a new feature called Quick Search which can help you find and launch almost anything on your PC. Just type in a word, a name, or a phrase, and Quick Search can find the right file for you. So you click start - then you click the search box then you type - get it? Of course you could just have a search pane on your taskbar - available in one click like today But more than that, the new start menu makes it very easy for you to navigate across all of the installed applications on your PC. Eliminating the slow performing, cascading "All Programs" view, the new start menu can help you get something started more quickly than ever - unless you have 100's of applications loaded where the cascading menus show you them all in one click - vista makes you wade through scrolling (yes scrolling) pane in startmenu.


                             Microsoft Vista's Start Menu

    Second, Vista offers new powerful but yet very easy to use Explorers.
    Explorers give you more information and control while simplifying how you work with your files. The experience is easy and consistent, whether you're browsing photos or documents or even using the new control panel. Enjoy ugly colours, locked toolbars, mandatory google killer search box, and so much info crammed in to the UI it would make a dog hungry


                         Vista's New Document Explorer

    Third, Vista offers a new search tool called “Quick Search”. 
    Quick search will help you find your data, email messages and even visited websites. This is a feature for idiots - or more elequently Mac users - who have no visual tree representation of where their files are.  If you know where your files are already - this is just a waste of UI space. The navigation pane offers quick and easy access to your data. - but not as much as the XP task pane which offered common tasks - not "criteria / Tags / keyword / author.. OFF - i want it all OFF ;p Command Bars display only the tasks that are most appropriate for the files being displayed. With new Live Icons (scalable thumbnails) used throughout Windows Vista, you can see the first page of documents, the actual image of a photo, or the album art for individual songs in your music collection, making it easier to find exactly what you are looking for. (so long as you dont mind them being displayed in an awkward upside down folder - spilling its guts - and displaying only the edges of your photos)

    Fourth, the new operating system offers “Windows Aero”
    Windows Vista is the first Windows operating system that has a user experience that can gracefully scale to the hardware capabilities of the computer it is installed on. All computers that meet minimal hardware requirements will see the Windows Vista Basic user experience, which provides the benefits of the refined interface features already mentioned. Windows Aero is an environment with an additional level of visual sophistication, one that is even more responsive and manageable, providing a further level of clarity and confidence to Windows users.
    cant wait to see the real one..

    Fifth, Vista offers live taskbars and thumbnails for your taskbar.
    Resting the mouse pointer over a taskbar item displays a live thumbnail of the window, showing the content of that window. The live thumbnail is displayed whether the window is minimized or not, and whether the content of the window is a document, photo, or even a running video or process.  The advantage is that you can view your work with an easily identifiable thumbnail. of course if you are using TaskSwitch Pro to display thumbnails using Alt-Tab - you wont need this either


                         Vista Taskbar with Thumbnails

    The Sixth reason you might want to upgrade to Windows Vista is Windows Flip and Windows Flip 3D.
    Windows Vista provides two entirely new features to manage windows: Windows Flip and Windows Flip 3D. Flip allows you to flip through open windows (by using Alt+Tab), providing a live thumbnail of each window, rather than just a generic icon and file name. Live thumbnails make it easier to quickly identify the window you want, particularly when multiple windows of the same kind are open. With Flip 3D, you can use the scroll wheel on your mouse to flip through open windows in a stack, and quickly locate and select the one you want to work with. Use Flip 3D to navigate through open windows using the scroll wheel on your mouse.  Too bad the prototypes you displayed in a blackcolmb video never made it in - which was like Apples Expose - but way before Expose.






    As you can see, Vista offers the best most text and bar polluted user interface of any operating system available today.  The new user interface will make hiding your data easier and also allow you to work faster with important new features like redundant Quick Search and Windows Flip3d.

    If you haven’t been sold on Vista quite yet…i havent been continue to watch this blog site for more information on the new Operating System from Microsoft called Vista!
    (Information for this article was taken from the official Vista website at
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/default.mspx)


    coffee - i need coffee...

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    sloppycode

    jamie wrote:

    "This is the year…



    SHUT THAT BLOODY BOUZOUKI UP!

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    Cybermagell​an

    rjdohnert wrote:
    If they want it on new systems before christmas that date may be a problem.


    If they are anything like us Vista will be in OEMs hands by Aug.

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    PerfectPhase

    rjdohnert wrote:
    If they want it on new systems before christmas that date may be a problem.


    Wonder if that's the launch party launch or the RTM date?  If it's not the latter and it's early november they may be in with a chance Smiley

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    Harlequin

    I don't think the Vista release date means squat.

    What's important is that we have Vista drivers for all of our hardware, and that all of our software will run.

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    arunpv

    Firefox 2.0 will be released in Q2/late Q3:D

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    DCMonkey

    I love the new Start Menu.

    Sad : 2
    Smiley : 1

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    arunpv

    jaylittle wrote:
    I will agree that after using the Feb CTP for a few hours.... the new Start Menu isn't so hot.  I understand the problem they are trying to solve - but this new menu isn't the solution.  As for Vista's release date, I'll believe it when I see it.  If it does hit release then, I get the feeling that it won't be nearly as polished as some of MS' last OS releases.  We may find ourselves waiting for SP1 much like a lot of us are now for Visual Studio 2005.

    Then again with Windows XP, the beta builds didn't really clean up until RC2 which was extremely late in the dev process.  RC1 wasn't usable for me for a number of reasons (none of which I can remember, though remember being annoyed over).  So perhaps Windows Vista will go emerge as a clean release in the same manner, though given the order magnitude of difference between going from 2000 to XP and XP to Vista, I'm not so sure it'll work out that way this time around.

    Either way, we will know soon enough.


    aahhh... that VS2005/SQL2005 they screwd up big time after last beta release. I even think VS2005 RC was much better than the final release.
    I am hoping they won't repeat the same mistake with Vista. If they DO they are not getting any PENNY from me and I ain't buying VISTA

    I will see.....Cool




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    Sven Groot

    DCMonkey wrote:
    I love the new Start Menu.

    : 2
    : 1


    Another vote here. I agree with many of Jamie's sentiments about explorer, but I can't stand the cascading start menu of XP and before. Vista's solution may not be perfect, but it's one hell of a lot better than what we had before.

    Sad : 2
    Smiley : 2

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    AndyC

    : 2
    : 3

    It's a little annoying at first, but when you get used to typing to filter the list (rather than scrolling) it works really well.

    Much better than trying to navigate a massive cascading menu

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    AdityaG

    arunpv wrote:
    shooby wrote:Hi Kiddies,

    Lets see -- what's really new.

    They changed the menu on the start button -- it doesnt say 'start' anymore. Check.

    They moved the search to the bottom of the new start menu. Check.

    Theres a quick search. Check.

    Theres new colors. Check.

    There are thumbnails on the task bar. Check.

    There are thumbnails in a rolo-dex thingie for active programs. Check.

    Excuse me, but 3 F***ing years for T H I S?

    Ok.  Well, I guess its worth 300 bucks and a half a week per user to upgrade.


    N  O  T

    I love you too.

    xx00

    shooby



    Inherit bugs from previous OS. Check

    Add more bugs and create multiple versions to confuse people. Check
    Think of something. Check
    Integrate MP/DSKSCH/Live stuff. Check
    Add .NET. Check


    Trolls : Check

    Back on topic, nice to finally have a solid launch date! Big Smile

    Cheers,
    Aditya

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