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    cheong

    An recent incidence make a thought come to my mind: What if Microsoft or other companies uses activation scheme request the user to input the number of activation when activating?

    Obviously, after a s/n is redistributed on the web, there's no practical way to know how many times a s/n has been used. We can also allow 3 tries, so companies don't keep track of the number of activation can guess it. But I think the companies will keep account for these once Microsoft announce this policy.

    How do you think about this?

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    Manip

    Uhh what? ... Microsoft already DO have activations ...

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    cheong

    Yes. But the current activation policy cause trouble to people who happens to need to reinstall after a short period, for example just after a few days after activation.

    And the OEM version keys only allow activation that's "not by phone" once. Pressing these long keys on phone is error prone for people not used to it, and not a very present experience either. Not to mention when we go to some place where people happens to use "pulse" mode phones which the activation system can't recognize.

    I'm targeting to suggest an approach as companion to current activation approach to reduce these troubles.

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    balupton

    How does this have anything to do with the title....


    Anyway for any idea concerning copy protection it is all useless unless it is improvement of the current way they are doing it, otherwise it is just a new way or alternative way.

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    erik_

    There must be a solution in the os (or supplied with) then that keeps track of the times of activation. What happends when this gets lost, how big is the change that this with get lost?


    Because the consumer will simply not remember how many times that they or the reseller did a reinstall. They don't care about this machine, they want it to perform it's task. If you ask a consumer/user after a month he might still remember his/her pc is reinstalled, but what after a year?
    They got other things to worry about, so there needs to be some way of keeping track. Which can gives way more problems then the current system, which works close to ok if you ask me.

    And what makes you think a group which cracks windows xp is so dumb, they can also come up with a solution for this. They only need to find a way of placing a number somewhere and keeping that number updated, where they can't be found/traced.

    Sure the find a serial number online stops, but it just becomes find the keygen with counter.

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    erik_

    cheong wrote:

    Yes. But the current activation policy cause trouble to people who happens to need to reinstall after a short period, for example just after a few days after activation.

    And the OEM version keys only allow activation that's "not by phone" once. Pressing these long keys on phone is error prone for people not used to it, and not a very present experience either. Not to mention when we go to some place where people happens to use "pulse" mode phones which the activation system can't recognize.

    I'm targeting to suggest an approach as companion to current activation approach to reduce these troubles.



    I've been able to install the oem windows xp on a machine, activate and reinstall it serveral times without problem. No need to call microsoft for activation, only when you keep changing hardware you need to call Microsoft and use the phone activation method.

    I don't know where you got this oem version need phone activation from, but that is certainly not true. Or they must have changed this in the last few weeks.

    How many times does it happen that a user needs to reinstall windows xp after a short period of time? Is the amount of people that do experience this big enough to give ALL the users of windows this extra worry of keeping track of number of activations they have done?

    The idea is nice, but the amount of people that have these trouble is probaly way too small to let everyone do extra work. This is like saying because 5 customers can't remember there phone number, let everyone using phones also remember there customerid.

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