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    rjdohnert

    Its actually quite cute, very sloppily done but funny.

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    Harlequin

    Smiley

    I like the music for that scene, John Williams caught the sadness with the chorus he used in that track. If only Lucas had directed Anakin to have more darker emotions(even small ones) during the movie, it would have made more of an impact...

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    Minh

    Harlequin wrote:
    If only Lucas had...

    If only Lucas had given us 3 decent movies -- actually, I saw "Return of the Jedi" not too long ago -- and it was extremely mediocre also. I want those 8 hours back. It goes to prove that if you're fat & happy, you can't make good art.

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    dahat

    Harlequin wrote:
    If only Lucas had directed Anakin to have more darker emotions(even small ones)


    Darker emotions? How about any emotions at all aside from his constant teenage whining of "it's all ____ fault" and "____ is holding me back". (Insert "Obi Wan" or "my parent(s)" into those blanks).

    Hell, I remember being that way when I was a teenager... it wasn’t the Dark Side doing it... it was puberty!

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    Jason Cox

    dahat wrote:

    Harlequin wrote: If only Lucas had directed Anakin to have more darker emotions(even small ones)


    Darker emotions? How about any emotions at all aside from his constant teenage whining of "it's all ____ fault" and "____ is holding me back". (Insert "Obi Wan" or "my parent(s)" into those blanks).

    Hell, I remember being that way when I was a teenager... it wasn’t the Dark Side doing it... it was puberty!

    Are you sure it wasnt the Dark Side? Ever try to Force Choke anyone?
    Big Smile

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    rjdohnert

    Yeah I tried to force choke someone, unfortunately it didnt work.  Beer28 kept showing up.  I thought Empire, and Revenge where perhaps the two best ones that Lucas did.  The other fault was Padme.  Just  goes to show you, if you want something FUBARed badly, put a woman into the scene.

    Jason Cox wrote:
    dahat wrote:

    Harlequin wrote: If only Lucas had directed Anakin to have more darker emotions(even small ones)


    Darker emotions? How about any emotions at all aside from his constant teenage whining of "it's all ____ fault" and "____ is holding me back". (Insert "Obi Wan" or "my parent(s)" into those blanks).

    Hell, I remember being that way when I was a teenager... it wasn’t the Dark Side doing it... it was puberty!

    Are you sure it wasnt the Dark Side? Ever try to Force Choke anyone?

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    BenZilla

    The funny thing is, Lucas didn't direct Empire and Return of the Jedi which are probably the 2 best star wars films.

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    Karim

    Minh wrote:
    It goes to prove that if you're fat & happy, you can't make good art.


    A recurring question at the local Philosophy Club.  I tend to agree with you.  Though occasionally there's somebody like Matisse who throws a wrench into the works by being fat, happy, stable, married with children, well-adjusted, popular, AND a good artist.

    There's an interesting film by Lars Von Trier called The Five Obstructions, in which Von Trier takes a filmmaker he idolizes (Jorgen Leth) and asks him to make short films, but with "obstructions" (obstacles) randomly created by Von Trier.  One of the ideas was, I think, that great art comes out of a struggle, that you have to be working against some kind of obstruction -- in other words, that you can't be fat and happy to make great art.

    Star Wars was great because Lucas was trying to make this epic saga and he had no budget, nobody was interested in science fiction films.  Lucas had obstacles galore -- that's why they gave him merchandising rights, the studio thought they were worthless.  The Phantom Menace sucked because finally Lucas had all the money in the world and he could finally make the boring saga about the Trade Federation's role in Galactic Politics that he always dreamed of making.  He had no obstacles.

    rjdohnert wrote:
    Yeah I tried to force choke someone, unfortunately it didnt work.  Beer28 kept showing up.


    LOL

    Charles: This isn't the forum you're looking for.  [handwave]

    Beer28: This isn't the forum I'm looking for.

    Charles: You want to go home and rethink your life.  [handwave]

    Beer28: I want to go home and rethink my life.

    BenZilla wrote:
    The funny thing is, Lucas didn't direct Empire and Return of the Jedi which are probably the 2 best star wars films.


    Lucas is a great director, I think... as awesome as Kershner was on Empire, if you're just talking about direction, I'd still give the nod to Lucas. 

    The dialogue that Lucas wrote, on the other hand... Tongue Out

    I found the two Clone Wars DVDs to be more entertaining than most of the films.... and strangely, one of the "obstructions" in the Von Trier film was to remake a film as a cartoon...

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    Minh

    Karim wrote:

    The dialogue that Lucas wrote, on the other hand...


    This line has always stuck with me:

    Anakin: "I'm not the Jedi I should be. I want more, but I know I shouldn't."

    Thanks George. Why show us, if you can tell us. (the horrible acting didn't help, though)

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    DoomBringer

    "Joins"?  No, he is the dark side.

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