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    Ion Todirel

    Hey,

    i want to figure out who is the best IDE in their area (Web Services, Desktop App, Web Sites, Components Design, UML Support, Tools Supports (extensibility) etc.), on different OSs and some of their features. My favorite is: 

    Microsoft (use vendor name!) Visual Studio 2005 (here i love support for Web Services, Visual Designer, not so much coding support (Code Rush, Resharper is still better)), bad at extensibility, for Windows i think is one of the best.

    Borland C++ BuilderX, cross platform, support for multiple compilers (great support for switching compilers). Some refractoring. UML support = zero without Together.

    IBM? Eclipse, slow, really slow, great support for refractoring and extensibility, cross platform, visual designer = bad or at least < VS, UML support = good.

    what IDE are you using? why? what others do you know? please help.
     
    EDIT: and what tools do you use? i use Together for UML Support (in VS 2003, sometimes Visio but i hate it, sometimes EA, don't know what to use in VS2005), Refractor Pro, Code Rush, Visual SourceSafe (and Merant PVCS), NUnit, Reflector, WiX, sometimes Borland Optimizeit, InstallShield Developer, Virtual PC, and some other tools.

    P.S. Please response to all questions.

    EDIT II: I use Visual Studio 2005 Professional

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    die-Sel

    I use VS 2005 Pro for most of my work, but if am on the laptop i run SharpeDevelop, its lighter on resources and my laptop is a P3 700mhz.

     

    /me soo needs to get a new laptop

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    W3bbo

    Hardcore VS2003 fan here, I don't touch 2005 unless it's absolutely necessary.

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    Wells

    I use VC++ 2005 IDE for editing, and compile on the command line with make + the VC++ 2003 compiler.

    Why the older compiler? Because the new one gives about 100x more errors and warnings for microsoft's own headers than the 2003 version! That and the new cl.exe requires about 1000 environment variables to even run.

    When compiling on *nix I can just build with a different makefile and everything works hunky-dory.

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    Detroit Muscle

    I'll have to say Matlab/Simulink is my favorite professional software development environment, yet our customers mandate the use of I-logix Statemate instead for reasons I'm still trying to figure out.

    For my personal projects, I use Atmel AVR studio 4. Very slick for a free product.

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    DoomBringer

    Any kind of development on a PC: VS2k3 (haven't upgraded yet)

    Java: Eclipse

    Linux: Emacs (eeeewwww) and gcc

    BlackBerry: RIM's own IDE.  Its relatively full featured

    teh Edit: I forgot, for assembly (been a while) MASM 6.15.  I think MASM 6.13 is on Microsoft's site somewhere... I got 6.15 from a book.

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    martin_lovi​ck

    ive been using vs2003 recently because of the project, but vi is the best IDE for a real coder

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    W3bbo

    martin_lovick wrote:
    vi is the best IDE for a real coder


    vi is a text-editor, not an IDE.

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    martin_lovi​ck

    i know that....REAL coders dont need IDEs !

    that said, VS2003 is good if you need to learn C# quickly

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    Ion Todirel

    martin_lovick wrote:
    i know that....REAL coders dont need IDEs !

    that said, VS2003 is good if you need to learn C# quickly
    if you want to be productive you will use an IDE, and some other tools (some times an IDE is not enought). Programming (to be a real coder programmer) does't depends on what tools/languages are you using or if you use a compiler/linker and write code in notepad or an IDE, if you have good memory you can program without IntelliSense.

    And what is a real coder?

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    martin_lovi​ck

    Ion Todirel wrote:


    And what is a real coder?



    someone bought up on K&R rather than Excel/VBA

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    Ion Todirel

    why you use coder instead of programmer sience is the same?

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    W3bbo

    Ion Todirel wrote:
    why you use coder instead of programmer sience is the same?


    It harkens back to the days when "coder" literally meant someone who had to encode all their instructions in hex or machine-code. Compare to a "programmer" which conjurs up stereotypical images of bandwagonner BASIC and COBOL "programmers" from the 70s who gave us those horrible legacy systems we have to maintain today.

    ...at least in my mind.

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    Ion Todirel

    i that that coders means o person that implements algorithms in a programming language.

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    arunpv

    I use VS2005/Borland Delphi/C++Builder
    Does Installshield Primier (its an IDE to create Installation) count?

    For SQL Server - I like Query Analyser....

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    Ion Todirel

    yep

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