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Windows: What is the greatest improvement since Win 3.1?

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    littleguru

    This thread made me think about Windows 3.1 and the changes until today. 

    What do you think is the greatest improvement since the Windows 3.1 days? I, personally, think it is the long names for files and folders instead of the old 8.3 format and multitasking (with all the improvements in that area).

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    pacelvi

    littleguru wrote:
    This thread made me think about Windows 3.1 and the changes until today. 

    What do you think is the greatest improvement since the Windows 3.11 days? I, personally, think it is the long names for files and folders instead of the old 8.3 format.


    Without a doubt

    - SMP
    - Preemptive multitasking
    - Application memory isolation / Virtual memory address allocation

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    RandyRants

    Not having to wade through the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat, having to worry if HIMEM.SYS is loaded or not.  I tried to install Win98 at some point over the last year and nearly poked my eye out trying to get it to ramp up.

    PnP hasn't hurt any either...

    And personally, the death of the Program Manager - I always hated having a master window for the desktop.

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    Antitorgo

    I have to agree w/ pacelvi. The move to a 32-bit architecture was the biggest thing by far... That is why me and most of the devs I know moved to WinNT before Win2k came out.

    One of my biggest gripes against the Macintosh was that it didn't have preemptive multitasking and memory isolation until OS X was released...

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    Cairo

    vistawillship wrote:
    The stream of improvements coming with Vista are endless...

    1) Goodbye Linux
    2) DRM!
    3) The end of piracy as we know it on the platform! Yay!
    4) Fancy 3-D eye candy
    5) XAML!

    Need I go on?

    Windows 3.1 was great in its time, but this will be the ultimate knockout blow to the cheapo, pirating hobby community out there.


    What?! You didn't mention the groundbreaking new version of Notepad!

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    sgomez

    all the networking improvements!!!

    dude! I love your avatar? where did you get it? (talking about Mario)

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    littleguru

    sgomez wrote:
    dude! I love your avatar? where did you get it? (talking about Mario)


    Thanks. I started the ROM in an emulator (old SNES emulator) and made a fast screenshot. Went over to Sven's avatar creator web edition and the remaining is history Smiley

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    matt0210

    pacelvi wrote:
    
    littleguru wrote:This thread made me think about Windows 3.1 and the changes until today. 

    What do you think is the greatest improvement since the Windows 3.11 days? I, personally, think it is the long names for files and folders instead of the old 8.3 format.


    Without a doubt

    - SMP
    - Preemptive multitasking
    - Application memory isolation / Virtual memory address allocation


    That's a good one. What version of Windows are you using. My XP-SP2 sure likes to lock up when Nero burns a CD or winamp converts a CD to MP3. And why my system with 800MB RAM pages like there's no tomorrow at a mere 400 MB used is beyond my comprehention.
    Without a doubt I'll be a Vista early adopter, and almost without a doubt these sort of things won't improve much if at all. I just finished DL Vista Beta 2, so I'm all exited about trying it out.

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    Larry​Osterman

    littleguru wrote:
    This thread made me think about Windows 3.1 and the changes until today. 

    What do you think is the greatest improvement since the Windows 3.1 days? I, personally, think it is the long names for files and folders instead of the old 8.3 format and multitasking (with all the improvements in that area).


    Win32.

    That includes:
      Process isolation
      Threads (one message queue per thread, which means one app can't take out the system)
      Virtual memory
      and a whole lot more.

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    littleguru

    LarryOsterman wrote:
    Win32.

    That includes:
      Process isolation
      Threads (one message queue per thread, which means one app can't take out the system)
      Virtual memory
      and a whole lot more.


    Hi Larry,

    since you were already a employee of Microsoft when you did Win3.1 I got a question: wasn't this already well known practises (I mean virtual memory, process isolation, etc.) when you shipped Win3.1? And why didn't it made already its way in Win3.1

    Thanks.

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    AndyC

    Plug and Play.

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    Windbag

    Well, I think it's... you know... that shadow? ...behind the mouse pointer? Really makes the thing jump out at you. 

    And NOW, with Vista, the mouse pointer is, uh... Hey, wait a minute...

    I WANT MY "GLASS" POINTER!

    [C]

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    IRenderable

    vistawillship wrote:
    The stream of improvements coming with Vista are endless...

    1) Goodbye Linux
    2) DRM!
    3) The end of piracy as we know it on the platform! Yay!
    4) Fancy 3-D eye candy
    5) XAML!

    Need I go on?

    Windows 3.1 was great in its time, but this will be the ultimate knockout blow to the cheapo, pirating hobby community out there.


    1) Not going to happen
    2) Thats a bad think.
    3) Yeah right
    4) Yay
    5)Yay

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    Xaero_​Vincent

    pacelvi wrote:
    
    littleguru wrote: This thread made me think about Windows 3.1 and the changes until today. 

    What do you think is the greatest improvement since the Windows 3.11 days? I, personally, think it is the long names for files and folders instead of the old 8.3 format.


    Without a doubt

    - SMP
    - Preemptive multitasking
    - Application memory isolation / Virtual memory address allocation


    Yeah these are important. Plus 32 bit protected mode access. Windows <= 3.x ran in 16 bit real mode. Thus Windows 95 and beyond yielded huge performance improvements when they had access to 4 GB of RAM and took advantage of the new 32 bit processors.

    I also think the move to the hybrid NT kernel from the crappy 9x monolithic kernel greatly improved reliability. But that not to say "modular" monolithic kernels are bad. Linux/FreeBSD have these kind and they work fine.


    Regards,
    Vincent

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    athan

    WGA first comes to mind Wink

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    Nightengale

    Oh wow I was going to say breaking the 640k conventional memory barrier...but then I realized the topic...oops sorry for the thread drift. Since 3.1? The "Start Menu"

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