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    Cybermagell​an

    When are we going to see some stuff like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkSObRtw0o

    "3D Desktop! TouchScreen and XGL on Linux (part 2)"

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    BenZillaThe​Second

    Hopefully never - it looks garbage.

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    Rowan

    Wow, it just keeps getting better. Even if you could just pull the window away like that with the mouse it would be useful.

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    Ion Todirel

    Cybermagellan wrote:
    When are we going to see some stuff like this?
    never, why? because its pretty useless, its not big deal, also you need a touch screen panel that's not that cheat i think

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    jamie

    i love that

    well...not that bouncy jiggle wait time - or the lag /space between finger and stretched window - but just in general

    using a tablet with your finger - like the scrolling - no more mouse
    throw in some cool 3d stuff (like that) id buy it (pop up transparent keyboard on screen) etc

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    BryanF

    My understanding was that Vista's tablet software will have touchscreen support, so it's not out of the question if the hardware is there. Though I have to say, the effects they showed did look pretty gimmicky, but I guess that's to be expected from a demo.

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    Xaero_​Vincent

    jaylittle wrote:
    
    Well to be fair... every single one of those effects is included in the current XGL/Compwiz packages.  It will be up to the Window Managers themselves in the future to decide which effects they'd like to implement though - so that demo really isn't representative of the future especially seeing as how XGL isn't the future, at least not once ATI/Nvidia begin to support AIGLX directly within their next driver revisions.


    AIGLX and XGL arn't what make those cool 3D effects. They simply provide a OpenGL rendered X server (XGL) or extention (AIGLX). Compiz is the window manager that handles those effect and will now work properly on both XGL and AIGLX.

    Compiz comes with one window theme and several effect plugins by default. But there are third party themes and plugins being developed.

    I now agree that AIGLX is a better approach as its meant as an extention to the already "tried and true" X.Org  server rather than a completely new server with bugs and security holes that would take 20 years to reach the maturity of X.Org and XFree86.


    Regards,
    Vincent

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    AdamKinney

    I really like the related video of the touchscreen and Starcraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYY-g6ionzM&NR

    The ability to use each finger as input, even if it only receives one at a time, looks very intuitive and productive.  The #D is definitely cool to look at, but I'm not sure of the use case yet.  I guess it would be a fun way to Remote Desktop into another computer.

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    Angus

    I don't think I would use that at all, although it is cool.

    Angus Higgins

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    DCMonkey

    AdamKinney wrote:
    I really like the related video of the touchscreen and Starcraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYY-g6ionzM&NR

    The ability to use each finger as input, even if it only receives one at a time, looks very intuitive and productive.  The #D is definitely cool to look at, but I'm not sure of the use case yet.  I guess it would be a fun way to Remote Desktop into another computer.


    Check out the Warcraft III table http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOg_tGIsYGs&NR

    I've always wanted something like that (Well, ever since I first played Warcraft 1).

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    Tensor

    Many moons ago I had a touchscreen flatpanel for work, because we were developing stuff for it. It seems really cool for about a week - then you realise you can not see your screen anymore for the greasy fingerprints. So you stop using it, but then every now and again while showing someone something t your desk you point to your screen and *click* argh!

    So then you switch the damn thing off.

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    jamie

    Tensor wrote:
    

    Many moons ago I had a touchscreen flatpanel for work, because we were developing stuff for it. It seems really cool for about a week - then you realise you can not see your screen anymore for the greasy fingerprints. So you stop using it, but then every now and again while showing someone something t your desk you point to your screen and *click* argh!

    So then you switch the damn thing off.




    what if the pen was a finger pen? same tech as in tablet pen but you wear it = no smudge? (do they make these?  edit: if they do - can you wear two at the same time and have two pointers? Wink

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    W3bbo

    jamie wrote:
    what if the pen was a finger pen? same tech as in tablet pen but you wear it = no smudge? (do they make these?  edit: if they do - can you wear two at the same time and have two pointers?


    That design wouldn't work, well... it might, but the "fingertip" would be at least an inch long by virtue of the way Wacom's technology works. Inferior RF technology is even worse, requiring a bulky battery in the stylus and requiring even more space.

    And since it would be at least an inch long, you lose the "fingertip" feeling (except if it was attached to your fingernail, that way you gain "biological" pressure sensitivity[1])


    [1]Your fingernails are the most pressure-sensitive parts in your body, aparently

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    jamie

    W3bbo wrote:
    

    the "fingertip" would be at least an inch long by virtue of the way Wacom's technology works.

    wacom?  i meant tablet pc - that comes with a pen.

    Inferior RF technology is even worse, requiring a bulky battery in the stylus and requiring even more space.

    im assuming tablet pens are not too bulky.. never tried one.  if so - ok a wrist pack with a finger sheaf

    And since it would be at least an inch long, you lose the "fingertip" feeling (except if it was attached to your fingernail, that way you gain "biological" pressure sensitivity[1])

    well  you dont feel the pen i imagine - its more about no smudgy finger tips - an artificial finger tip.


    [1]Your fingernails are the most pressure-sensitive parts in your body, aparently

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    staceyw

    I actually liked the soundtrack.  Anyone know who that is?

    Windows already has ability to do this.  With a touch screen, you could write an app that did this.  Using WPF would make it much easier.  The scrollbar thing would be nice to be able to do.

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    dentaku

    Most of that is just not very useful.

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    jamie

    with the finger glove...on the couch...with a tablet...no smudges... move stuff by touch ...

    it could be useful?


    * i liked it anyway..  just seemed demo laggy


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    Ion Todirel

    staceyw wrote:
    I actually liked the soundtrack.  Anyone know who that is?
    yep, thats Keiji Haino - Track 11 (Evolving Blush or Driving Original Sin), you should listen Track 8 (same album), now thats really cool.

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