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    jeffsand

    I'm on Vista now on all my machines even my family computer.  I am starting to play with Sidebar Gadgets.  (Yes, Jeff started at Microsoft as a dev Wink

    Curious if anyone else out there has made any or what they have found that they can't live without.  What Gadgets would you like to see?

    I am thinking about some home automation gadgets.


    -Jeff

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    Larsenal

    Disclaimer: I have not yet installed Vista on any machine.

    The one gadget I hope will soon exist is a nice stock watcher.  Ideally, it would support real-time quotes, display a small intraday chart as a flyout, and support alerts.

    I'd probably even pay good money for such bits (after a 30-day free trial of course).

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    ScanIAm

    Larsenal wrote:
    Disclaimer: I have not yet installed Vista on any machine.

    The one gadget I hope will soon exist is a nice stock watcher.  Ideally, it would support real-time quotes, display a small intraday chart as a flyout, and support alerts.

    I'd probably even pay good money for such bits (after a 30-day free trial of course).


    Same here, but I doubt you'd get realtime quotes.  That actually costs a decent amount of money Smiley

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    littleguru

    To tell you the truth: I have the sidebar disabled. Most of the time I have Visual Studio open. Full screen. That's because VS takes so much space (even on my 1920xSomething 16:9 resolution) with all those windows (floating in, floating out, flying, sticky, left, right, bottom, ...).

    I had two options:

    1. Have the sidebar always on top: means less space for the VS windows -> bad!
    2. Don't have the sidebar always on top: means I can't see the gadgets because VS takes all the space.
    => Disable sidebar.

    Positive side effect: More RAM for the Visual Studio aka the RAM eater.

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    Larsenal

    ScanIAm wrote:
    
    Larsenal wrote: The one gadget I hope will soon exist is a nice stock watcher...


    Same here, but I doubt you'd get realtime quotes.  That actually costs a decent amount of money


    True.  Hopefully since my online broker already gives me "free" realtime quotes, they'll build this kind of tool for their users.  It's not much more than a new presentation of existing services.

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    W3bbo

    littleguru wrote:
    Positive side effect: More RAM for the Visual Studio aka the RAM eater.


    Try running Photoshop sometime, it's the only program I've got that I've seen use more than a gig of RAM. Not even all my installed games come close.

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    jamie

    i tried - and tried.  but as it is not just an IE container - you need to be a programmer to do it.

    (* jeff had even forwarded some of my earily "complaints" to a guy who bent over backwords trying to help me.  sending easy code samples a bunch of times.)

    needless to say i feel bad all his help was to no avail. - but no amount of samples can turn a designer into a programmer  (har har i hear you all laughing Wink)

    of course - the problem would be moot and there would be 1000's of gadgets if they just behaved like IE - or i hate to say it - the way apple has seemed to impliment this feature...for webpages...not to foist a net programming standard of managed code or .net or whatever this stuff is made of

    - one quick case in point:

    when i asked michael (guy above) about iframes in sidebar - he dutifully sent me what seemed to be a very simple empty ready to go clean template of an iframe - sliding out - closing.  wicked!  thanks!

    but after 1 minute of experimenting with it - you see that every URL has to call an object name and stuff cant just be a http://..html.  as well - want google homepage as your gadget (example) click a link - it pops open IE and leaves the gadget.  Also - javascript issues, frame target issues.  i could go on.

    this equals: every page currently on the net cannot run inside a gadget - even if you coded your pages on your site to all use this type of script object tag

    so ...until its just a browser - that the whole internet runs on and knows how to do stuff on - and until there is an easy installer to specify how you want links to open, where, what size, fades, slides - etc..  im afraid im out of the ballpark when it comes to gadgets

    it's too bad cause i -and some clients - really wanted to do a bunch

    Edit - maybe i should have just asked michael for a gadget with a running ie container - with google in it - rather than an iframe - but it would probably still suffer the same limitations as above

    and PS - thanks for the help though - it was nice of you guys to try. 


    oh and one more thing...  if gadgets DID work as above - everyone could make themes media tuners and themed browsers  out the wazoo - just how they want them.  just like windows applications - only for web developers. The side bar could literally become that new UI - beyond the startbar...

     i wouldnt expect we will see this feature too soon...

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    Cybermagell​an

    I think I might take a look at writing some.

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    jamie

    Cybermagellan wrote:
    I think I might take a look at writing some.


    while you do your first experiment/learn it/fake version - try the ie object Wink

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    Cybermagell​an

    jamie wrote:
    
    Cybermagellan wrote: I think I might take a look at writing some.


    while you do your first experiment/learn it/fake version - try the ie object


    Jamie it might be a little, but do me a favor and email me the samples you got if you still have them.

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    jamie

    ill postem for everyone - hang on...

    * i really did appeciate him helping me out..  too bad its not just IE! Smiley


    here:   http://www.channel9.ca/gadgets-sample.zip

    * i had been meaning to do this - but forgot too

    PS - programmers - these are indeed WAY easier than hacking most of the vista samples...   grab for later


    edit - gadget fast facts:

    - call the folder anything.gadget
    - put folder in programfiles/sidebar / gadgets
    - or user/localapp/ms/sidebar/gadgets

    this should show it in the gadget chooser

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    brian.​shapiro

    is there anywhere i can download the calculator gadget that was in beta 2 but removed afterwards

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    jamie

    the best gadget - the hardest gadget - i bid you - good luck! Smiley

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    ddillon

    brian.shapiro wrote:
    is there anywhere i can download the calculator gadget that was in beta 2 but removed afterwards


    http://gallery.microsoft.com/Results.aspx?vista=landing&rdm=925338&l=1&ti=2

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    littleguru

    W3bbo wrote:
    
    littleguru wrote: Positive side effect: More RAM for the Visual Studio aka the RAM eater.


    Try running Photoshop sometime, it's the only program I've got that I've seen use more than a gig of RAM. Not even all my installed games come close.


    I had VS at 2 GB ... That's no problem... Just keep it open for a while.

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    ZippyV

    I wrote a gadget to participate in a contest for a dutch developers magazine (from Microsoft). My gadget downloads 3 recipes everyday. When you click on one of them you can read the ingredients and see a picture. There is also a link to the website where you can print all the necessary information.

    The magazine mentioned my name but I didn't win the contest. The winning entry was a tv-guide gadget because it was more creative and original. No Xbox 360 for me. [C]

     

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    Wells

    It takes up too much space on 1024x768 and there is no shortcut key to quickly show/hide the damn thing.

    And honesty, who needs a fancy looking clock when there is a digital one right there in the system tray? I'm sure we all turned on the clock gadget for about an hour and then removed it.

    I guess I'm not a gadget person.

    edit: hold on, would it be possible to write a gadget that added a shortcut key to show/hide the sidebar? Or are gadgets not allowed that kind of control?

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    Shiv

    ZippyV wrote:
    I wrote a gadget to participate in a contest for a dutch developers magazine (from Microsoft). My gadget downloads 3 recipes everyday. When you click on one of them you can read the ingredients and see a picture. There is also a link to the website where you can print all the necessary information.

    The magazine mentioned my name but I didn't win the contest. The winning entry was a tv-guide gadget because it was more creative and original. No Xbox 360 for me.

     


    i m not a gadget person too. but ur clock in the sidebar looks good to me Smiley

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