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Performance: IE7 and Visual Studio

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    stun

    Ok...how should I start this rant.....


    Everybody loves fast and responsive applications.
    For example, IE6 and Visual Studio 2003.
    In my opinion, they are really fast and responsive.


    Starting from IE7 and VS2005, these applications have become slower.
    What happened?


    I feel like IE7 feels slow and unresponsive.
    For example, when I open an EMPTY browser tab,
    it takes "a while" when the new tab is opening and showing "Connecting...".
    Much worse when you cold-start IE7 compared to IE6.



    Visual Studio 2003 used to be really fast and responsive in my opinion.
    Yes I am well aware that VS2005 has a LOT more features.
    But the performance (or) speed is really horrible as of now.
    VS2005 SP1 doesn't make any difference either.


    I have lost my enthusiasm of using Visual Studio.
    I feel like Visual Studio is as bloated and slow like those Java IDEs (Eclipse, NetBeans, Java Ent. Studio).


    I feel like Visual Studio team has turned Visual Studio
    into a bloated IDE while trying to add new features.



    I dont know how much it bothers most of you regarding performance,
    but I am very very annoyed about this.


    What has gone wrong? I miss the good old IE6 and VS2003 performance.

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    velkymx

    I totally know what you mean... Have you tried to use Outlook 2007? That program is the slowest monster ever. I had to go back to 2003 because 2007 was so slow. It take 5 minutes to load, then if you write a new message when you type it takes a couple of minutes for the text to show up in the message.... and dont get me started on Windows Desktop Search.

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    DMassy

    stun wrote:
    

    Ok...how should I start this rant.....


    Everybody loves fast and responsive applications.
    For example, IE6 and Visual Studio 2003.
    In my opinion, they are really fast and responsive.


    Starting from IE7 and VS2005, these applications have become slower.
    What happened?


    I feel like IE7 feels slow and unresponsive.
    For example, when I open an EMPTY browser tab,
    it takes "a while" when the new tab is opening and showing "Connecting...".
    Much worse when you cold-start IE7 compared to IE6.



    Visual Studio 2003 used to be really fast and responsive in my opinion.
    Yes I am well aware that VS2005 has a LOT more features.
    But the performance (or) speed is really horrible as of now.
    VS2005 SP1 doesn't make any difference either.


    I have lost my enthusiasm of using Visual Studio.
    I feel like Visual Studio is as bloated and slow like those Java IDEs (Eclipse, NetBeans, Java Ent. Studio).


    I feel like Visual Studio team has turned Visual Studio
    into a bloated IDE while trying to add new features.



    I dont know how much it bothers most of you regarding performance,
    but I am very very annoyed about this.


    What has gone wrong? I miss the good old IE6 and VS2003 performance.



    If you are seeing performance issues with IE7 then the first step is to take a look at any addons that you have installed. Do you need them and do you have the latest versions? See http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html for some great links to help with IE7 issues.
    Thanks
    -Dave

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    W3bbo

    stun wrote:
    Starting from IE7 and VS2005, these applications have become slower.

    What happened?

    Visual Studio 2003 used to be really fast and responsive in my opinion.
    Yes I am well aware that VS2005 has a LOT more features.
    But the performance (or) speed is really horrible as of now.
    VS2005 SP1 doesn't make any difference either.


    I concurr, well at least on VS2003 (I've still got IE6 on this box), it loads faster and remote-debugging (especially for ASP.NET apps) is a lot more responsive in VS2003 than VS2005 (at least a few hundred miliseconds-per-debug command faster)

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    zian

    W3bbo wrote:
    
    stun wrote: Starting from IE7 and VS2005, these applications have become slower.

    What happened?

    Visual Studio 2003 used to be really fast and responsive in my opinion.
    Yes I am well aware that VS2005 has a LOT more features.
    But the performance (or) speed is really horrible as of now.
    VS2005 SP1 doesn't make any difference either.


    I concurr, well at least on VS2003 (I've still got IE6 on this box), it loads faster and remote-debugging (especially for ASP.NET apps) is a lot more responsive in VS2003 than VS2005 (at least a few hundred miliseconds-per-debug command faster)


    ++ for VS taking too long
    Actually, ever since Visual Studio 6, I've felt that the load times were too long. And I'm being generous because the load times for VS6 weren't particularly short on my Pentium II.

    Edit: About IE7
    Loading the browser is OK because I expect a small delay. On the other hand, the wait for new tabs is outrageously long. I find that I click the New Tab button and then Alt-Tab to another program to do something before coming back.

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    cescotto

    IE7 is extremely slow and it hangs very often (temporarely for a few seconds, but no crashes yet) on big pages (I replaced it with the firefox-based Orca browser). VS 2005 is a lot slower, especially when compiling. Outlook 2007 takes much more time to start however I didn't notice any slowdown.

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    stun

    DMassy wrote:
    
    If you are seeing performance issues with IE7 then the first step is to take a look at any addons that you have installed. Do you need them and do you have the latest versions? See http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html for some great links to help with IE7 issues.
    Thanks
    -Dave


    Hi Dave,

    I just have to ask detailed (read: hard to answer) questions since you are one of C9 audience's favorite person from the IE team. Smiley


    List of IE Add-ons Currently Loaded
    1) Adobe Acrobat Reader
    2) IE Inline Search "Browser Helper Object"
    3) Research
    4) Diagnose Connection Problems...
    5) Windows Messenger


    My computer specs
    - Windows XP SP2
    - 1600 MHz Pentium M
    - 1GB RAM

    It's a Dell Latitude D600 model with a 1GB RAM.
    Might not be the best and fastest Core 2 Duo computer with 2GB RAM,
    but it was really good to run IE6 and VS2003.




    IE7 does feel slower than IE6 is what I can say for sure. Perplexed
    To make things faster for IE7,
    1) I have the Anti-Phishing feature disabled as well.
    2) I have a Blank Home Page


    Please correct me if I am wrong about this.
    The most noticeable changes and new features in IE7 are basically the following.
    1) Better web standards support
    2) Anti-Phishing feature
    3) Better security, maybe Big Smile ???
    4) Tabbed Browsing


    #1 and #2 comes in only when you visit a web site.
    I am talking about application performance, not Web Page Rendering Performance.
    So logically, the only thing that could effect the performance are #3 and #4.


    Look at Opera browser. Very light weight and it starts up VERY fast.
    Yes, you could argue that IE has dependencies on other modules in the OS and etc,
    but IE6 still comes out on top in terms of performance.



    IE6 used to be my favorite browser because it runs faster compared to Firefox.
    It still is. I don't usually care about security holes in IE6 because
    I only visit well-known sites only (e.g. SlashDot, MSDN, etc... ).



    Please don't think I am starting a Firefox v.s. IE7 debate.
    Firefox has become more favorable to me than IE7
    since the performance is about the same and
    Firefox is better in terms of usability in my opinion.



    What happened to IE.....that's all.

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    cescotto

    stun wrote:
    
    IE6 used to be my favorite browser because it runs faster compared to Firefox.


    If you want a suggestion drop IE and install the firefox-based orca browser that, once started, always sits in your tray so you can solve the startup time problem. There's also Avant browser that is the IE-based counterpart of Orca however it will still have those slowdowns.

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