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Macs OSX and hackers' incentives

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    JohnAskew


    Despite what the Cult of Mac tells you Macs are not 100% safe.

    A security researcher named Dino Dai Zovi took home a $10,000 prize for remotely hijacking a MacBook Pro.

    It took less than 10 hours to discover a security hole in Quicktime and set up a Web page to exploit it.

    Also, January was The Month of Apple Bugs as a pair of hackers revealed a new security hole in the OS for each day.

    In February the first worm virus for OSX was discovered.

    From PC World

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    Rossj

    I love how they had to pay to get what most hackers do on Windows for free Smiley It would be naive to think OSX was invulnerable, but I would point out that the remote exploit challenge failed - and they had to resort to going for exploits based on a user visiting a page - so be default it doesn't appear to be easily exploitable remotely. The hole has since been fixed (in Java/Quicktime). The Jan exploits were pointless a third of them were third party apps, but did bring home to Apple, I think, that the flaws are there, and people will find them. But really, who thinks that the Mac is invulnerable, certainly safer than other OS' but not invulnerable.

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    Dr Herbie

    Massif wrote:


    We all know the truth here, Windows is as secure as a well locked up house in a really rough neighbourhood, apple is as secure as an unlocked cottage in a leafy country village


    What a fantastic analogy.  Nice one.  I hope you don't mind if I ever use it ...


    Herbie

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    Massif

    MoAB was probably a bad example because a lot of there bugs were in third party apps.

    You know the reason you don't get common exploits from Mac bugs are threefold.

    1 - Virii need a certain population size to be viable.
    2 - Exploit writers are motivated by money, windows = more hits for the same effort.
    3 - People like to attack MS, whether they be Virus writers or Journalists or random bloggers.

    We all know the truth here, Windows is as secure as a well locked up house in a really rough neighbourhood, apple is as secure as an unlocked cottage in a leafy country village, and linux is as secure as an ordinary house in a commune.

    Either way, no-one is perfectly secure.

    So why are you mentioning this now? Just curious, because it looks like it's a troll-paper post. (like fly paper, but more flame retardent.)

    [edit: before I'm misconstrued I don't mean to imply that apple are unsecure, merely that the security you get from being on a mac is more related to relative obscurity and a lack of profit in hacking macs than macs inherently being incredibly secure. I know that Macs are pretty secure thankyouverymuch.]

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    Massif

    Feel free.

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