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Poor, poor germans (aka moronity rules this world)

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    BlackTiger

    Germany cracks down on copying

    Cool law... Look.

    You can lie on TV, provide fake news and bs people.
    Nobody can prove what you're lying because you can't record "news"!
    Cool!

    EU is worse than USSR was! This world is sick...

    If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.
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    evildictait​or

    So apart from EU-bashing is there any content to your post?

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    Bas

    Politics! What an awesomely appropriate topic. Not as good as religion, but still.

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    esoteric

    Bas wrote:
    Politics! What an awesomely appropriate topic. Not as good as religion, but still.


    It's techno-politics, but I suppose any hint of political discussion is a no-no.

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    Bas

    esoteric wrote:
    
    Bas wrote:
    Politics! What an awesomely appropriate topic. Not as good as religion, but still.


    It's techno-politics, but I suppose any hint of political discussion is a no-no.


    Oh, the link was techno-politics, yes. I just don't see what the rest of the post had to do with technology.

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    DigitalDud

    Isn't banning political discussions also politics in itself?

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    BlackTiger

    evildictaitor wrote:
    So apart from EU-bashing is there any content to your post?


    Yep. Cool

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    BlackTiger

    Bas wrote:
    Politics! What an awesomely appropriate topic. Not as good as religion, but still.


    It's funny until pilitics comes in your life... Sad

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    GoddersUK

    BlackTiger wrote:
    EU is worse than USSR was! This world is sick...


    I just saw that bit on the bottom.

    What on earth does German law have to do with european law?

    This was not the EU that made this rule it was Germany.

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    evildictait​or

    BlackTiger wrote:
    
    You can lie on TV


    That's misrepresentation, (and often slander) which is illegal in the EU.

    BlackTiger wrote:
    
    provide fake news and bs people.


    See CNN or ABC news.

    BlackTiger wrote:
    
    Nobody can prove what you're lying because you can't record "news"!


    Does news count as "music" or "film" in your mind, because (and I quote) ... "makes it all but illegal for individuals to make copies of films and music" from the article you just linked.

    BlackTiger wrote:
    
    EU is worse than USSR was! This world is sick...


    Because we impose our style of government on others, stating that it is "the best way", lie to our public about the "evils" or certain countries, invade Afghanistan and lock up prisoners without trial or jury indefinitely.

    Or maybe that was someone else, I forget...

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    W3bbo

    evildictaitor wrote:
    
    BlackTiger wrote:
    
    You can lie on TV


    That's misrepresentation, (and often slander) which is illegal in the EU.

    BlackTiger wrote:
    
    provide fake news and bs people.


    See CNN or ABC news.

    BlackTiger wrote:
    
    Nobody can prove what you're lying because you can't record "news"!


    Does news count as "music" or "film" in your mind, because (and I quote) ... "makes it all but illegal for individuals to make copies of films and music" from the article you just linked.


    From what I've read, this piece of German legislation is a glorified DMCA.

    It doesn't affect your ability to tape record programs off TV, for example.

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    raymond

    DigitalDud wrote:
    Isn't banning political discussions also politics in itself?


    Right on!

    Charles are you listening! Wink

    Cool

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    BlackTiger

    Here is longer (original?) version in german.

    This law mean banning of any recording device (VCR, DVDR, TiVo, etc). You cannot legally record any show/film for "late view" if you can't view it in time of translation.

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    Stitch 2.0

    BlackTiger wrote:
    Here is longer (original?) version in german.

    This law mean banning of any recording device (VCR, DVDR, TiVo, etc). You cannot legally record any show/film for "late view" if you can't view it in time of translation.



    I really hate to correct you on this, but the german article says nothing at all about TV...

    It talks only about CD's, DVD's and downloads...

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    bitdisaster

    Poor, poor BlackTiger

    your german is to bad. I read the original article and they say nothing about TV and also the copying of DVD's and CD'S for private use is still possible. Only the amount of copies is restricted to a few numbers (around 7).


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    BlackTiger

    http://www.variety.com/VR1117972503.html

    "The law also covers digital copies from IPTV and TV broadcasts."

    (Russian) http://www.lenta.ru/news/2007/09/24/nocopies/
    "Помимо запрета на копии CD и DVD, в Германии будет запрещена запись и хранение трансляций с платных и общедоступных телеканалов."


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    Stitch 2.0

    BlackTiger wrote:
    http://www.variety.com/VR1117972503.html

    "The law also covers digital copies from IPTV and TV broadcasts."

    (Russian) http://www.lenta.ru/news/2007/09/24/nocopies/
    "Помимо запрета на копии CD и DVD, в Германии будет запрещена запись и хранение трансляций с платных и общедоступных телеканалов."



    you know, it is kind of weird to rely on a russian and an american page more than on a german article.... when it comes to german laws and politics....

    I have even checked on the page of the government and can't find anything on tv recordings there either. (http://www.bundestag.de/parlament/plenargeschehen)

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    BlackTiger

    Stitch 2.0 wrote:
    
    BlackTiger wrote:
    http://www.variety.com/VR1117972503.html

    "The law also covers digital copies from IPTV and TV broadcasts."

    (Russian) http://www.lenta.ru/news/2007/09/24/nocopies/
    "Помимо запрета на копии CD и DVD, в Германии будет запрещена запись и хранение трансляций с платных и общедоступных телеканалов."



    you know, it is kind of weird to rely on a russian and an american page more than on a german article.... when it comes to german laws and politics....

    I have even checked on the page of the government and can't find anything on tv recordings there either. (http://www.bundestag.de/parlament/plenargeschehen)


    politics = mass media = lie

    Nothing new... Cool

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