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It's Official - Comcast Attacks P2P

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    phreaks

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/

    MSNBC wrote:

    Comcast Corp. actively interferes with attempts by some of its high-speed Internet subscribers to share files online, a move that runs counter to the tradition of treating all types of Net traffic equally.

    The interference, which The Associated Press confirmed through nationwide tests, is the most drastic example yet of data discrimination by a U.S. Internet service provider. It involves company computers masquerading as those of its users.

    Comcast's technology kicks in, though not consistently, when one BitTorrent user attempts to share a complete file with another user.

    Each PC gets a message invisible to the user that looks like it comes from the other computer, telling it to stop communicating. But neither message originated from the other computer — it comes from Comcast. If it were a telephone conversation, it would be like the operator breaking into the conversation, telling each talker in the voice of the other: "Sorry, I have to hang up. Good bye."


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    ScanIAm

    Comcast consistently abuses its customers because it can.  In most cases, they have a monopoly on the service areas and are quite happy to avoid competition.

    That goes for COX and Time Warner, too. 

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    phreaks

    ScanIAm wrote:
    Comcast consistently abuses its customers because it can.  In most cases, they have a monopoly on the service areas and are quite happy to avoid competition.

    That goes for COX and Time Warner, too. 


    Ya, I have Cox, the name says it all.

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    jsampsonPC





    Comcast is my provider right now, and I can honestly say that I've never been more displeased with any ISP in the past.

    My connection is slow, unstable, and expensive for what I'm getting. I have NEVER had a single uninterrupted hour online with no packets lost. I lose atleast 5% of packets, and at most (this is seriously true) 75%.

    I called them about this. They sent some kid out to check out the problem. When he couldn't fix it, he said he was going to get somebody with more experience out to work on the issue.

    I called comcast the next day, and they said they had no plans of sending anybody else out to my house, even though some kid told me he would file that paperwork.

    I griped and complained (as anybody should), and they finally said they would try to fix the issue, and give me 60% off the bill for three months.

    My service is still trashy, and I'm planning on getting a new provider within a month depending on the direction comcast takes with their support of my issue.

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    ScanIAm

    phreaks wrote:
    
    ScanIAm wrote:
    Comcast consistently abuses its customers because it can.  In most cases, they have a monopoly on the service areas and are quite happy to avoid competition.

    That goes for COX and Time Warner, too. 


    Ya, I have Cox, the name says it all.


    The big problem is that the cable companies bargained with city councils back in the 70s and 80s to get exclusivity for a period of time.  In doing so, they promised to put in cable drops and kick back some of the money they make to the city.

    In fact, if you look at your bill, you'll see how much money goes to the city because, no sh!t, they charge YOU for it directly.  Plus processsing fees.

    Since then, every time one of these contracts is set to expire (the exclusivity of the cable lines) that company will simply lobby the city commission to renew it for another 5, 10, or 20 years with promises of even more money. 

    That money will, again, will come from you and the cable company will tack on a processing fee.

    So, while your city commission can sit pretty with 'lower taxes', they are still taxing you and the cable company is getting a cut.

    Honestly, I want to re-phrase my original statement:  All telecom companies (cable, phone, wireless, satellite) are thieves.

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    JChung2006

    ScanIAm wrote:
    Honestly, I want to re-phrase my original statement:  All telecom companies (cable, phone, wireless, satellite) are thieves.
    The companies or their shareholders?

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    ScanIAm

    JChung2006 wrote:
    
    ScanIAm wrote:
    Honestly, I want to re-phrase my original statement:  All telecom companies (cable, phone, wireless, satellite) are thieves.

    The companies or their shareholders?


    The companies. 

    The cause of their thievery might be shareholder driven, but take a look at who owns most of the shares of the cable companies, for example.  These are family owned businesses that went public.  The majority shareholders, however, are still the families who originally ran the company.

    I'm all for companies making a profit, and to be honest, it's pretty hypocritical of me to complain since I have a cell phone, cable connection, and comcast is my ISP, but there is a fine line between being profitable and running an unchecked location specific monopoly.

    That isn't to say that even when competition is involved, the customer is really served.  Every piece of the internet/computer world has gone down in price over the last 20 years EXCEPT access TO the internet.  And why is it that I'm paying federal, state, and city access fees ON TOP of $45 a month for broadband speed?  The f*cking modem only costs $45 and I guarantee the switch on the other side of the connection was paid for after the first month.

    Cell phone bills never go down and what other business can charge you $200+ to cancel service with them.  Oh, and if you call your cell phone company with issues, it's likely that they'll re-up your contract.  And you have no recourse because they ALL do this.

    Thieves.

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    gswitz

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality_in_the_United_States

    Regulatory history of broadband

    In the US, Broadband services were once regulated differently according to the technology on which they were propagated. While cable Internet has always been classified by the FCC as an information service free of most regulation, DSL was once regulated as a telecommunications service subject to unbundling requirements. As the two types of networks have increasingly provided the same services, it has become difficult to justify different sets of rules, leading to the question of which rules should apply to both.

    Towards the end of 2004, the US legal system voided the rules requiring telephone operators to unbundle certain parts of their networks at regulated prices, which had as a consequence the economic collapse of many competitors in access services[citation needed].

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    Cybermagell​an

    Or you could always bug their Chief Software Architect

    He was a SVP at AOL....

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    jsampsonPC

    I just got off the phone with Comcast. I am currently experiencing about 10% packet loss. I called to complain yet again, and the rep said, "Sir, I will schedule for a specialist to visit you within 7 to 10 business days." I quickly responded, "I don't mean to be rude, but I've been having these problems since day-1 of using your service. I've already had technicians out here, and they have fixed nothing. If I don't have a technician out here within the next couple of days I will be leaving you and going to AT&T."

    As she was doing her rep-stuff in silence, I said "You may or may not have an answer to this question, but I heard today that Comcast is killing transmission of P2P-activity. I frequently connect to a VPN to do work for remote clients, so I - like P2P sharers - use a large portion of my bandwidth...are you guys killing my connections too when they reach a certain threshhold?"

    "Sir, I cannot comment on that."

    Ah, alright....just fix my damn internet then.

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