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Stossel To Gore--"Give Me A Break"

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    raymond

    Looks like John Stossel is going to rain on Al Gore's Nobel Prize parade for a global warming planetary emergency.

    Watch the 20/20 show Friday, October 19, 2007 at 8 P.M. Eastern time on ABC.

    Man vs. Nature

    Challenging Conventional Views About Global Warming


    Should be on YouTube shortly for those who cannot catch the show in the USA.

    Make up your own mind.


    John Stossel Exposes Global Warming Myths

    "...In a release from ABC previewing Stossel’s report on Friday’s “20/20,” the veteran newsman and Newsmax pundit – who won 19 Emmys exposing scammers and con artists – says:

    “This week on ‘20/20’ (in our new 8 p.m. Eastern time slot) I say ‘Give Me a Break!’ to our Nobel Prize-winning Vice President.

    “Mr. Gore says ‘The debate is over,’ and those who disagree with his take on global warming have been ‘purchased’ in order to create ‘the illusion of a debate.’ Nonsense. It's as if the Vice President and his allies in the environmental movement plan to win the debate through intimidation. I interview some scientists who won't be intimidated, even though one has had his life threatened for speaking up.

    “The Vice President's much-applauded movie, ‘An Inconvenient Truth,’ claims warming is man’s fault and a coming crisis! While the earth has certainly warmed over the last century, plenty of independent scientists say scientists cannot be sure that man caused the warming or that warming will be a crisis.

    “They say the computer models that are used to predict the disasters don’t include important variables because scientists don’t fully understand them. For example, warming may cause cloud formations that reflect sun and cool the earth. The computer models cannot know. These scientists call global warming activism more of a religious movement than science.”

    Gore's film is filled with “misleading messages,” says Stossel. ..."

    ....

    "...I suspect that next year's government boondoggle will be massive spending on carbon-reducing technology.

    “It reminds me of George Mason University Economics Department Chairman Don Boudreax's suggestion that such schemes really mean ‘government seizing enormous amounts of additional power in order to embark upon schemes of social engineering - schemes whose pursuit gratifies the abstract fantasies of the theory class and, simultaneously, lines the very real pockets of politically powerful corporations, organizations, and “experts."’

    “He is so right. The abstract fantasies of the theory class will soon send huge chunks of your money to politicians, friends, activist scientists, and politically savvy corporations.

    “The debate is over? That makes me say GIVE ME A BREAK!”


    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/global_warming/2007/10/17/41855.html


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    raymond

    esoteric wrote:


    Great video. Thanks for the pointer. Smiley

    I am considerable more worried about asteroids and a new glacial ice age than global warming.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

    For comic relief and LOL:

    Dennis Miller unloads on Al Gore, other greens Wink


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruuux4AuHfQ


    Cool

    John Stossel's report made it to YouTube:


    John Stossel - The Global Warming Debate 10/20/07


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FI0U5JOtoo


    "What you think you know might not be so."


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    DoomBringer

    MikeeeG wrote:
    Of course, Al Gore does not explain that within the past several years, one of may issues is that the earth expels green house gases naturally. Volcanos expel dust particulates ,sulfer dioxide, and
     other assorted contaminates into the atmosphere. Not to mention there are methane hydrates that emerge from deepsea deposits.
             About the polar bears dying off. those that die were from severe storms, and there population has increased ever so slightly over the years.
    I for one realize that earth's climate fluccuates  a couple of decades ever so often.
             Al Gores prize was won merely as a political tool which is not a very honorable action.

    Except you're omitting the very relevant fact that human activity produces much more CO2 than natural processes ever did.  Don't delude yourself.
    rayray:
    Tom Brokaw said it is real, so therefore it is.  Because I say so.  Also, if you're a real libertarian, you'll realize that "the market has spoken" by giving Gore's film a real success in the theaters, ipso facto magico, global warming is real.

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    MikeeeG

    Of course, Al Gore does not explain that within the past several years, one of may issues is that the earth expels green house gases naturally. Volcanos expel dust particulates ,sulfer dioxide, and
     other assorted contaminates into the atmosphere. Not to mention there are methane hydrates that emerge from deepsea deposits.
             About the polar bears dying off. those that die were from severe storms, and there population has increased ever so slightly over the years.
    I for one realize that earth's climate fluccuates  a couple of decades ever so often.
             Al Gores prize was won merely as a political tool which is not a very honorable action.

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    raymond

    MikeeeG wrote:
    Of course, Al Gore does not explain that within the past several years, one of may issues is that the earth expels green house gases naturally. Volcanos expel dust particulates ,sulfer dioxide, and
     other assorted contaminates into the atmosphere. Not to mention there are methane hydrates that emerge from deepsea deposits.
             About the polar bears dying off. those that die were from severe storms, and there population has increased ever so slightly over the years.
    I for one realize that earth's climate fluccuates  a couple of decades ever so often.
             Al Gores prize was won merely as a political tool which is not a very honorable action.



    Climate changes

    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/warm.htm#w2

    Or as we say in Texas, if you do not like the weather, stick around for five minutes. Wink

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    esoteric
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    Tensor

    C9 Readers To Raymond-- "Give Us A Break"

    Or maybe

    C9 Readers To Admins-- "Why Do You Keep Giving This Guy A Break?"

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    Dodo

    Expressionless

    Not global warming again... Embarassed

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    raymond

    I watched the show.
     
    Stossel hit some of the major criticisms of Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth and Gore assertion that their is a "consensus".

    However, I got the impression that his story had been edited down to the bare minimum.

    I was surprised  by how short the story was.

    Stossel stated he had given Al Gore an opportunity to respond to the points he made in his report and Gore declined.


    The story is not up on YouTube yet.

    Until then there his earlier report:

    Global Warming? Really Bad?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUlGoaAOzqA

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    Harlequin

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    raymond

    Harlequin wrote:
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    Thank you for the suggestion.

    Got a blog and it is growing nicely.

    If you do not want to hear it then you and your like minded buddies have my persmission not to click on any of my posts.  Smiley

    It is not that difficult.  Wink

    Try it--you might like it.  Tongue Out

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    harumscarum

    No we ignore it and it drops off the first page and all is well. However you bump up these threads and paste in more wastage. I ignore your posts but when you bump them up it is quite annoying.

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    Bas

    Dear Raymond,

    Post a link to your blog, so that we may comment on it and insert posts about whatever political topic concerns us at that moment.

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    Isshou

    News finally reporting on the facts... took them long enough

    For months if you read the news in Oregon you'd know that the global warming argument is by no way "closed".

    The university appointed state climatologist of Oregon agrees that the Earth is warming, but disagrees on the cause or the severity of it's effects. What did that earn him: good conversations with his respective counterpart in Washington (very civil between them) and the Oregon Gov wanting him kicked out of his university appointed position because of his views on the global warming issue. Since this happened a while ago, and new abour it sputtered out, I can't remember if he was removed from the position or not.


    I believe this has a debate in other threads:
    http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=347859
    http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=338805
    http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=304184
    http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=278407

    and 3/4 (now 4/5 with this thread) are started by raymond... so can't we wrap this up?

    and the search:
    http://channel9.msdn.com/Search/SearchResults.aspx?q=Global+Warming&f=MTU=&u=MA==
    (642... oops 643 posts on Global Warming)

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    blowdart

    Channel9 to Raymond -- "Give us a break. And leave"

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    Jason Cox

    Bas wrote:
    Dear Raymond,

    Post a link to your blog, so that we may comment on it and insert posts about whatever political topic concerns us at that moment.
    Seconded.

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    Cannot​Resolve​Symbol

    DoomBringer wrote:
    
    Tom Brokaw said it is real, so therefore it is.


    Expressionless

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    DoomBringer

    CannotResolveSymbol wrote:
    
    DoomBringer wrote:
    
    Tom Brokaw said it is real, so therefore it is.




    Tom Brokaw loves America's WW2 vets, so therefore by reason of magic, he is credible on Global Climate change.  Also, he made a documentary and talked to experts around the world who did science, but that is entirely secondary.

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