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    intelman

    It baffles my mind at the sheer amount of vista bashing crap out there. I agree that Vista is slower than it should be, but this is ridiculous.  Comparing a 10 year old OS to the current one. If it really is faster though, that is lame.

    http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/04/03/windows-98-turns-70-in-dog-years/

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    JChung2006

    98 does less than Vista.  However, maybe there's a lesson to be learned from that...

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    Bass

    JChung2006 said:
    98 does less than Vista.  However, maybe there's a lesson to be learned from that...
    Huh? I don't see the big deal. Vista is has been trashed pretty much everywhere, including in the mainstream. Oh no! Not another dude with a blog!!

    Personally I don't like Vista very much either. But if you like it, more power to you.

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    Ray7

    And this is worth blogging  about?

    Of course Windows98 is 'faster' than Vista. If he ran DOS on the machine it would be faster still.

    Chances are that he wouldn't be able to do as much.


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    SlackmasterK

    Ray7 said:
    And this is worth blogging  about?

    Of course Windows98 is 'faster' than Vista. If he ran DOS on the machine it would be faster still.

    Chances are that he wouldn't be able to do as much.


    Depends on how you measure 'faster'.  I'm sure Vista could win in certain benchmarks; for example, did 98 even have multi-core support?

    I've noticed some bloggers who have tried Vista since SP1 came out and changed their minds.  I got into the SP1 beta (Likely due to being invited to the original Longhorn/Vista beta).

    <Cheap plug>

    I wrote a series of posts on the subject, and went through much turmoil and internal dispute before finally making it my primary OS - Despite having gotten a free license via the Longhorn Beta program (Thanks whoever invited me; I couldn't find the invite thread).

    </cheap plug>

    I think people are finally starting to realize that (With SP1 applied) Vista is a solid OS.  It's the most aesthetically appealing OS I've ever seen, and my network file transfers are faster than ever before (Having reinstalled my File & Printer Sharing).

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    Sven Groot

    SlackmasterK said:
    Ray7 said:
    *snip*
    Depends on how you measure 'faster'.  I'm sure Vista could win in certain benchmarks; for example, did 98 even have multi-core support?

    I've noticed some bloggers who have tried Vista since SP1 came out and changed their minds.  I got into the SP1 beta (Likely due to being invited to the original Longhorn/Vista beta).

    <Cheap plug>

    I wrote a series of posts on the subject, and went through much turmoil and internal dispute before finally making it my primary OS - Despite having gotten a free license via the Longhorn Beta program (Thanks whoever invited me; I couldn't find the invite thread).

    </cheap plug>

    I think people are finally starting to realize that (With SP1 applied) Vista is a solid OS.  It's the most aesthetically appealing OS I've ever seen, and my network file transfers are faster than ever before (Having reinstalled my File & Printer Sharing).
    Sorry dude, but the UI of your site is horrible.

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    stevo_

    Sven Groot said:
    SlackmasterK said:
    *snip*
    Sorry dude, but the UI of your site is horrible.
    3d mark is never a good way to benchmark a systems ability to do heavy processing (even such as gaming).. even if vista is the 'netburst' of os's.. the hardware is so much faster now that nobody cares..

    People need to get over this thing of counting processes, or getting stressed about their memory being used..

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    SlackmasterK

    Sven Groot said:
    SlackmasterK said:
    *snip*
    Sorry dude, but the UI of your site is horrible.
    Yeah, I haven't really gotten much feedback on it tbh... What do you think of the old one?

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    Sven Groot

    SlackmasterK said:
    Sven Groot said:
    *snip*
    Yeah, I haven't really gotten much feedback on it tbh... What do you think of the old one?
    Sorry, but that's just as bad. Bottom line is, I hate monospace fonts for anything other than code.

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    Cream​Filling512

    SlackmasterK said:
    Ray7 said:
    *snip*
    Depends on how you measure 'faster'.  I'm sure Vista could win in certain benchmarks; for example, did 98 even have multi-core support?

    I've noticed some bloggers who have tried Vista since SP1 came out and changed their minds.  I got into the SP1 beta (Likely due to being invited to the original Longhorn/Vista beta).

    <Cheap plug>

    I wrote a series of posts on the subject, and went through much turmoil and internal dispute before finally making it my primary OS - Despite having gotten a free license via the Longhorn Beta program (Thanks whoever invited me; I couldn't find the invite thread).

    </cheap plug>

    I think people are finally starting to realize that (With SP1 applied) Vista is a solid OS.  It's the most aesthetically appealing OS I've ever seen, and my network file transfers are faster than ever before (Having reinstalled my File & Printer Sharing).
    Win98 certainly had no SMP support, I can't imagine it being faster in any benchmark anyway.  Unless you're measuring performance of real-mode DOS applications.

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    Charles

    Comparing Windows 98 to an NT-based general purpose OS like Vista is like comparing raisins to pineapples.... Rediculous.

    For one thing, Windows 98-type OSes have no user mode/kernel boundary, are highly insecure and, well, are dead and gone for good. That species of OS is extinct and for good reason. There are so many significant differences in OS physiology that any meaningful comparison is pointless.

    Vista, with all of its apparent problems (some very real, some not so much) is the core Windows architecture of the forseeable future (core OS, kernel, HAL, base driver model, etc). Sure, Windows 7 will be an evolutionary release (I'd imagine - I know very little about the offering, but that will change when the Windows team opens its doors to C9), but the core architecture will most likely be very similar (and users don't care about core architecture anyway; and they shouldn't. The system should just work as expected.)

    C

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