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    Ray7 said:
    harumscarum said:

    As long as they don't stop me running whatever I want to run), then why should I care what they stick on the machine. Disk space is cheap; I can install half a dozen browsers if I want to.

    If they prevent me running stuff, then we have a problem (like Apple and that podcasting app).

    Ray7 said:
    The browser has been the most popular way to download stuff for some time now. I can't even remember how I got hold of my first brower, but I think that it was already installed on the machine that landed on my desk ... 

    That's true, and it would be rather silly to suggest that Microsoft debundles IE from Windows now, but that doesn't change the fact that when Microsoft started putting IE "in the box", the most common way of getting software was by purchasing physical CDs (or hell, even floppies) either on its own or as part of a magazine or packaged bundle. 

    By tying IE unessisarilly heavilly to the operating system and forcing customers who use Windows (read" everyone") to pay for IE, why would you pay for Netscape Navigator as well? Microsoft broke anti-trust legislation by removing the component of choice from customers. Since there was no real alternative to Windows, bundling IE meant that you could either one of either:
    a) No Windows
    b) Windows + IE
    c) Windows + IE + Netscape.

    If IE does roughly the same thing as Netscape, why would you pay extra for it? Microsoft was removing customer choice by preventing people choosing the "Windows + Netscape (without IE)" option.

    This thread does seem a bit unessisarilly biased towards Microsoft and against Apple. Sure, Apple isn't the all-singing, all-dancing wonder company that the media sometimes makes it out to be, and Microsoft probably doesn't deserve the devil-spawn baby-eater image that it has. This doesn't however mean that Microsoft wasn't being evil when it did these things. Microsoft's changed a lot over the past few years (for the better), but to cover up all of its mistakes in the past and pretend they didn't happen or that they were "common sense" or whatever is to encourage the sort of behaviour that got Microsoft the "evil-corporation" reputation and antitrust lawsuits that its having to battle with today.