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What comes after Windows 7?

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  • GoddersUK

    So, at some point in the coming year, Microsoft are likely to ship a new operating system, designed for new ideas in the field of user interaction and fix the faults that many people find in Vista.

    But what next? If Windows 7 is a runaway success where do Microsoft go next? What's the next big thing they'll do? The "Wow" started in 2007, but how do they keep it going beyond 2009? Will it be more "software + services"? More virtualisation? How will they convince business that whatever it is is the next big thing and worth it.

    And if Windows 7 is a flop, how will they try and recover? Will they try "new and improved" or will they roll back. If they rolled back what would they roll back - the inside (kernel etc.) or outside (UI). If they try "new and improved" how would they make it new and improved. And how would they market whatever change they made. To quote from The Vicar of Dibley - "There's good change and bad change. Prawn cocktail crisps - they're bad change. But traffic lights - if they never changed... they're good change". (Quote not word perfect, but you get the idea).

    So, ideas? Speculation? Predictions?

  • figuerres

    I Hope 7 will be ok.

    I think that vista was like xp and I hope 7 will be like xp sp2 in terms of how it gets taken up by users.

  • brian.​shapiro

    Windows 7 will definitely get a good reception as a Windows release, the problem will be comparing it to any competition it has by then,

  • bitdisaster

    brian.shapiro said:
    Windows 7 will definitely get a good reception as a Windows release, the problem will be comparing it to any competition it has by then,
    I would say Windows 8 and 9.
    How I know?
    With respect to this picture http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/gates_borg.jpg we have Seven of Nine now.
    And as everybody reports in this forum, Seven is nice and efficient.
    Smiley



  • esoteric

    There is already a thread on this exact topic. It puzzles me that you choose to spawn a replica, GoodersUK. - but beyond that...


    I am sure everyone will like 7 (myself included) but life is a journey - a step on the path is not failure. It may never arrive at an end - humans will evolve so the target is a moving one - although unless you're on the singularity brain train, you're not likely to evolve as fast as to require radical new ideas to accomodate your needs. There is also evidence to the fact that the brain might not be so easy to emulate as hitherto thought.

    One of the big Microsoft plusses has always been integration and you can loop that the "Steve Ballmer "Developers"" way. In that sense, what would provide more integration between applications than an OS global database as well as a cloud reflection of it. Fatamorgana?

  • magicalclick

    Vista's failure is mostly because the graphics driver couldn't be stable on time, thus, there is no point to switch for gamers. Fixed as time goes on. And now Vista has stable graphics drivers, which works on Win7.

    Another failure is that Vista is not eye candy enough. Same old taskbar, paint, and an useless Mail application. Live Mail is way better and it works on XP. No advantage over XP. Same WMP, same IE, same Photo Gallery, same Media Center. Added with bothersome security control. Win 7 didn't really fix some of the problem, but at least the taskbar is new and you can do touch stuff.

    Anyway, future of Windows? I thought it would be Singularity, Surface, Live Mesh, and other stuff.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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  • UB hans gunsche

    i want a new dos mode

  • GoddersUK

    esoteric said:
    There is already a thread on this exact topic. It puzzles me that you choose to spawn a replica, GoodersUK. - but beyond that...

    I am sure everyone will like 7 (myself included) but life is a journey - a step on the path is not failure. It may never arrive at an end - humans will evolve so the target is a moving one - although unless you're on the singularity brain train, you're not likely to evolve as fast as to require radical new ideas to accomodate your needs. There is also evidence to the fact that the brain might not be so easy to emulate as hitherto thought.

    One of the big Microsoft plusses has always been integration and you can loop that the "Steve Ballmer "Developers"" way. In that sense, what would provide more integration between applications than an OS global database as well as a cloud reflection of it. Fatamorgana?
    I was here first Wink Tongue Out

    Anyway, that's given me an idea. No doubt this has already been thought about and discussed before. Probably even partially implemented. But a GUI that monitors and analyses the users actions that customises itself based upon this. A kind of evolving GUI.

    Then again it could just end up being a horrible mess. Smiley

  • jonathansam​pson

    GoddersUK said:
    esoteric said:
    *snip*
    I was here first Wink Tongue Out

    Anyway, that's given me an idea. No doubt this has already been thought about and discussed before. Probably even partially implemented. But a GUI that monitors and analyses the users actions that customises itself based upon this. A kind of evolving GUI.

    Then again it could just end up being a horrible mess. Smiley
    That would be interesting - I wonder how it would react to a devigner like myself who spends a week in Photoshop, and then a week in MySQL, and then a week in my favorite Text Editor Smiley Not to mention the movie Click, with Adam Sandler, demonstrated how evil technology that learns your ways can be Smiley

  • esoteric

    GoddersUK said:
    esoteric said:
    *snip*
    I was here first Wink Tongue Out

    Anyway, that's given me an idea. No doubt this has already been thought about and discussed before. Probably even partially implemented. But a GUI that monitors and analyses the users actions that customises itself based upon this. A kind of evolving GUI.

    Then again it could just end up being a horrible mess. Smiley
    Please allow me to die in shame. Sorry for that dude.

  • Minh

    GoddersUK said:
    esoteric said:
    *snip*
    I was here first Wink Tongue Out

    Anyway, that's given me an idea. No doubt this has already been thought about and discussed before. Probably even partially implemented. But a GUI that monitors and analyses the users actions that customises itself based upon this. A kind of evolving GUI.

    Then again it could just end up being a horrible mess. Smiley
    But a GUI that monitors and analyses the users actions that customises itself based upon this. A kind of evolving GUI.

    No no no... Do not let machine learn & evolve... Has James Cameron not taught us anything?

  • Sven Groot

    GoddersUK said:
    esoteric said:
    *snip*
    I was here first Wink Tongue Out

    Anyway, that's given me an idea. No doubt this has already been thought about and discussed before. Probably even partially implemented. But a GUI that monitors and analyses the users actions that customises itself based upon this. A kind of evolving GUI.

    Then again it could just end up being a horrible mess. Smiley
    That probably wouldn't be a good idea. It would screw up muscle memory and things like that, similar to the adaptive menus of Office 2000.

  • Minh

    Sven Groot said:
    GoddersUK said:
    *snip*
    That probably wouldn't be a good idea. It would screw up muscle memory and things like that, similar to the adaptive menus of Office 2000.
    It's probably not a good idea to have the app change UI on the user... but  I like the idea of having basic / advanced UIs... as long as te user get to "graduate" themselves to the more advanced UI... I think that's an interesting concept...

    I've seen them in the past, but apparently they didn't catch on

  • Cannot​Resolve​Symbol

    Sven Groot said:
    GoddersUK said:
    *snip*
    That probably wouldn't be a good idea. It would screw up muscle memory and things like that, similar to the adaptive menus of Office 2000.
    I don't know--  the XP and Vista adaptive start menus work well.  They just have to reach a steady state, and then the user can develop muscle memory.

    The trouble with the Office adaptive menus was that they simply remembered the most recently used commands--  the Office adaptive menus never reached a steady state where you could start to develop muscle memory.

  • magicalclick

    jonathansampson said:
    GoddersUK said:
    *snip*
    That would be interesting - I wonder how it would react to a devigner like myself who spends a week in Photoshop, and then a week in MySQL, and then a week in my favorite Text Editor Smiley Not to mention the movie Click, with Adam Sandler, demonstrated how evil technology that learns your ways can be Smiley
    Click demonstrates one thing. Users doesn't know what it can do and blame it when it did something they didn't expect.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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  • jamie

    a new CEO?

  • nyxtom

    There's a lot of ground to be covered in multitouch and surface computing. We're slowing growing out of the window'd model so I imagine the next operating system or so will be more canvas centric or surface focused. But who knows :/

  • 123fucku

    go to hell ull never get it

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