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Why Firefox is more secure than IE

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    Bass

    Ubuntu said:
    stevo_ said:
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    one introducing the significant security model that stands it apart from the rest

    Do you know who "inspired" them to introduce that crash one tab and not the entire brower feature?

    Who? The per tab process thing was actually announced slightly before Chrome was released.

    And I think he is talking of IE's isolation context. Which was probably inspired by pioneering work by the NSA (National Security Agency), and the Flask operating system, or associated SELinux extensions.

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    AndyC

    LOL. Are they really still pimping statistics from 2006 and thinking they have any bearing whatsoever? Are Mozilla really that afraid of what the situation looks like if you look at it today?

    As to "your security is our top priority", presumably that's why a default install of Firefox goes in "Program Files" and then insists you have permission to change those files when it is launched, effectively requiring you to run your web browser as Administrator? Top priority my arse.

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    Ubuntu

    AndyC said:

    LOL. Are they really still pimping statistics from 2006 and thinking they have any bearing whatsoever? Are Mozilla really that afraid of what the situation looks like if you look at it today?

    As to "your security is our top priority", presumably that's why a default install of Firefox goes in "Program Files" and then insists you have permission to change those files when it is launched, effectively requiring you to run your web browser as Administrator? Top priority my arse.

    Try to find a more recent INDEPENDANT study - if they made a study themselves you would question the credibility of that wouldn't you.

     

    Do you have a place where Windows programs should store their configuration settings which is not the registry?

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    PaoloM

    Ubuntu said:
    AndyC said:
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    Try to find a more recent INDEPENDANT study - if they made a study themselves you would question the credibility of that wouldn't you.

     

    Do you have a place where Windows programs should store their configuration settings which is not the registry?

    Ever heard of AppData?

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    stevo_

    Ubuntu said:
    AndyC said:
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    Try to find a more recent INDEPENDANT study - if they made a study themselves you would question the credibility of that wouldn't you.

     

    Do you have a place where Windows programs should store their configuration settings which is not the registry?

    Err... what ha - this thread is getting really funny with the amount of fail from this guy Big Smile, you still haven't explained what IE's split processes was inspired from..

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    Ubuntu

    PaoloM said:
    Ubuntu said:
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    Ever heard of AppData?

    I take that one back to some extent - have been using Linux long enough to forget about it - however there still is a problem of an app auto-updating itself and writing files to Program Files - M$ haven't solved that one.

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    Ubuntu

    stevo_ said:
    Ubuntu said:
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    Err... what ha - this thread is getting really funny with the amount of fail from this guy Big Smile, you still haven't explained what IE's split processes was inspired from..

    Bass was kind enough to answer that one for me.

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    PaoloM

    Ubuntu said:
    PaoloM said:
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    I take that one back to some extent - have been using Linux long enough to forget about it - however there still is a problem of an app auto-updating itself and writing files to Program Files - M$ haven't solved that one.

    What problem?

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    blowdart

    PaoloM said:
    Ubuntu said:
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    What problem?

    Delusions?

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    stevo_

    Ubuntu said:
    stevo_ said:
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    Bass was kind enough to answer that one for me.

    Soo.. the IE team was inspired by a browser that wasn't even out yet.. because I could have sworn I was using the publically released IE8 beta's long before chrome was thrown at the public.

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    Ubuntu

    stevo_ said:
    Ubuntu said:
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    Soo.. the IE team was inspired by a browser that wasn't even out yet.. because I could have sworn I was using the publically released IE8 beta's long before chrome was thrown at the public.

    Your memory has been failing you - this was the flagship feature of Chrome upon its release and it was the first in the industry to have this feature.

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    Royal​Schrubber

    Ubuntu said:
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    Your memory has been failing you - this was the flagship feature of Chrome upon its release and it was the first in the industry to have this feature.

    Bloger mentions multi-process design of IE8:  6th of March 2008

    http://www.boogdesign.com/b2evo/index.php/2008/03/06/ie8_beta_1_a_review?blog=2

     

    Chrome anouncement and 'Chrome book':  1st of September 2008

    http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html

     

    In case you did not know September comes after March..

    Perplexed

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    GoddersUK

    Am I the only one who fails to see what Microsoft's charity work has to do with Internet Explorer's security?

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    Ubuntu

    RoyalSchrubber said:
    Ubuntu said:
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    Bloger mentions multi-process design of IE8:  6th of March 2008

    http://www.boogdesign.com/b2evo/index.php/2008/03/06/ie8_beta_1_a_review?blog=2

     

    Chrome anouncement and 'Chrome book':  1st of September 2008

    http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html

     

    In case you did not know September comes after March..

    Perplexed

    A lot of bloggers wrote how great WinFS is going to be back in 2004 but now it's 2009 and we have still to see its greatness - my point being - would you care to mention who RELEASED TO MARKET a product with this feature first - Google or M$? Embarassed

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    Bass

    Ubuntu said:
    RoyalSchrubber said:
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    A lot of bloggers wrote how great WinFS is going to be back in 2004 but now it's 2009 and we have still to see its greatness - my point being - would you care to mention who RELEASED TO MARKET a product with this feature first - Google or M$? Embarassed

    M$

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    dahat

    Ubuntu said:
    RoyalSchrubber said:
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    A lot of bloggers wrote how great WinFS is going to be back in 2004 but now it's 2009 and we have still to see its greatness - my point being - would you care to mention who RELEASED TO MARKET a product with this feature first - Google or M$? Embarassed

    This argument of timing is quite funny as there was recently a little revision over on Wikipedia's Chrome page that claimed that the initial release of it happened in 2007...

    This person soon after updated it to say that a screenshot was running on “Windows Vista Sucks Edition” and even claims that “A public version for Mac OS X and Ubuntu is set to be released in June 2039.”

    Given our friend’s hopeless battles here... I wonder if he is also trying to forge reality over there.

    Are you he Ubuntu? Are you up in Canada?

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    Bass

    Ubuntu said:
    RoyalSchrubber said:
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    A lot of bloggers wrote how great WinFS is going to be back in 2004 but now it's 2009 and we have still to see its greatness - my point being - would you care to mention who RELEASED TO MARKET a product with this feature first - Google or M$? Embarassed

    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/internet-explorer-8-beta-2-now-available.aspx

    http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/15315.cfm

    Looks like IE 8 beat Chrome by 5 days. INNOVATION.

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    stevo_

    Ubuntu said:
    RoyalSchrubber said:
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    A lot of bloggers wrote how great WinFS is going to be back in 2004 but now it's 2009 and we have still to see its greatness - my point being - would you care to mention who RELEASED TO MARKET a product with this feature first - Google or M$? Embarassed

    How does that make sense.. chrome did release the final version before IE.. but the IE 8 betas were out to use long before chrome, and the fact the idea was even talked about prior to these beta releases... how do you somehow get that Microsoft was inspired by a browser that didn't release until over 6 months later..

    I'm sure you aren't even that much of an idiot, and that you are of course- trolling..

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