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    W3bbo

    Is it just me... or has Microsoft done absolutely nothing since 2003?

    In 2003 a lot of stuff was released, I'll admit:

    • Windows Server
    • Visual Studio
    • DotNet 1.1
    • Exchange
    • Load of "Windows Server Suite" titles
    • Quite a few games
    • SP2
    • And stuff
    2004? Virtualy nothing... spare one or two Server Suite apps.

    2005?

    Only "big" thing I'm seeing is Visual Studio 2005 and the IE7 Beta.

    So what's everyone working on?

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    Rossj

    Desktop search, MSN Music (if anyone actually uses it is another story), erm... can't think of anything else but there was bound to be something.

    Oh MSN Messenger 7, complete with new 'can't live without' functionality - nudges and winks !

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    Stitch 2.0

    err... how about... let's see.... Channel9???? Wink

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    W3bbo

    Stitch 2.0 wrote:
    err... how about... let's see.... Channel9????


    Channel9 was in development in 2003 Wink

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    Manip

    Keep in mind software takes longer and longer per
    release.. And Microsoft do release new stuff all at
    the same time, look at the year before that, nothing
    much happened then either.

    I also think Microsoft likes to give its corp. users
    a break and then hit them with a big bill right when
    they forgot how much they paid last time they got a
    big bill from Microsoft. Smiley

    In my opinion, Microsoft are short of ideas for some
    of their products (e.g. Office)..

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    Sven Groot

    ISA Server 2004?

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    harumscarum

    Biztalk 2004
    SQL Server 2005

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    rhm

    Longhorn does seem to have turned into a Death March of sorts. At the very least the project has done a very good job of emulating the "when will it ever be done"/"how are we supposed to get it done with the requirements keep changing" behaviour of the Netscape/Mozilla project.

    Looks like we should get Whidbey this year and along with Team System that's a very substantial product.

    I agree it seems Office are short of ideas. A lot of the stuff in Office2k3 seems to me at least to have been changes for changes sake, particularly in the user interface. I guess that's why they acquired Groove recently - to breathe a bit of life into the productivity apps division.

    It's not all bad though, 2004 did bring Halo 2! Smiley

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    jonathanh

    W3bbo wrote:
    So what's everyone working on?
    I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

    No, wait, I got that the wrong way round. I could tell you, but then marketing would kill me.

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    DaveNoderer

    The Security efforts have certainly put a dent in products released.

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    Stitch 2.0

    W3bbo wrote:
    Stitch 2.0 wrote:err... how about... let's see.... Channel9????


    Channel9 was in development in 2003


    oops....

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    Manip

    jonathanh wrote:
    I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

    No, wait, I got that the wrong way round. I could tell you, but then marketing would kill me.


    Can you get away with telling us what area it's in?

    Same [area] as your previous project?

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    jonathanh

    Manip wrote:
    Can you get away with telling us what area it's in?

    Same [area] as your previous project?
    Oh, it's the same thing, it's just that we now (finally) have an official name. But of course this name must be kept Uber Top Secret until the big announcement next month.

    The amusing part is that it won't really be top secret - they'll tell select members of the press in advance, to "build the buzz". You know all those stories that begin "Next week, Microsoft is expected to announce..."? Totally marketing driven. And then on the day itself the entire press corps will have been given advance notice, so that they can write all their stories and be ready to file as soon as it's "official".

    The whole marketing world is a very weird, you-scratch-my-back-and-I'll-scratch-yours kind of place, with lots of these little "rules" that have evolved over the years to make everyone's jobs easier. It'll be interesting to see how it evolves over the next few years now that blogs have been added to the mix.

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    W3bbo

    prog_dotnet wrote:
    Microsoft Products 2005


    1. Instanbul Windows Messenger (Voip client for LCS 2005)
    2. Meh, you win this round Tongue Out
    3. .NET Framework 2.0
    4. Indeed
    5. ACS (Audit Collection System)
    6. Is?
    7. ActiveSync 4.0
    8. ActiveSync 3's been around since 1999
    9. ADAM 2.0
    10. Is?
    11. AntiSpyware
    12. Yeahyeah
    13. AntiVirus ?
    14. They'd probably get sued by Symantec Wink
    15. ASP.net 2.0
    16. Woo and yay for XHTML (shame it isn't S-XHTML though)
    17. Automated Deployment Services 2.0
    18. There was a version 1.0?
    19. Biztalk 2004 64
    20. Commerce Server 2002 64
    21. Commerce Server 2006 beta
    22. Corperate Error Reporting 3.0
    23. CRM 2005
    24. Digital Image Suite 11 ?
    25. Adobe CS still pwns
    26. Encarta 2006
    27. They do that every year, doesn't count Wink
    28. Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2 (includes some elements of Edge Services like Sender ID)
    29. Exchange Server Best Practices Analyzer Tool 2.0
    30. Fingeprint reader in Intellimouse Explorer
    31. That's hardware, not software Wink
    32. Hot Patch Technology Support (part of common engineering initiative)
    33. ISA 2004 Enterprise Edition
    34. ISA 2004 Service Pack 1
    35. Live Meeting 2005
    36. What was wrong with Exchange Instant Messaging?
    37. Longhorn Beta (client)
    38. Longhorn Server Beta 1
    39. Mappoint 2005/2006 ?
    40. Thus new Autoroute, Streets, Trip Planner, and all that malarky
    41. Microsoft Data Protection Server (DPS)
    42. Aiieee.... the eeeviillsss of DRM
    43. Money 2006
    44. Every year, doesn't count
    45. Monthly IMF (spam filter) updates for Exchange 2003
    46. MSN Messenger 7
    47. I'd rather have "FunWebProducts" that install that
    48. MSN Search desktop
    49. You should see my My Documents dir, its neatly organised Smiley
    50. MSN Search web
    51. Google all the way, yeah baby!


    So nerrr

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    stephbu

    W3bbo wrote:
    1. Encarta 2006
    2. They do that every year, doesn't count


    I'm not so sure the Encarta dev team would agree.  (nor any other outfit that actually ships a quality product on schedule every year)

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    Shaded

    You want just stuff released or >good< stuff?

    Leave em alone and let em work.

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    Aayush Puri

    W3bbo wrote:
    Is it just me... or has Microsoft done absolutely nothing since 2003?

    In 2003 a lot of stuff was released, I'll admit:
    • Windows Server
    • Visual Studio
    • DotNet 1.1
    • Exchange
    • Load of "Windows Server Suite" titles
    • Quite a few games
    • SP2
    • And stuff
    2004? Virtualy nothing... spare one or two Server Suite apps.

    2005?

    Only "big" thing I'm seeing is Visual Studio 2005 and the IE7 Beta.

    So what's everyone working on?


    Wasn't Win XP SP2 released in 2004? And i think it was a big enough accomplishment!

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    scobleizer

    Channel 9 was released on April 6, 2004.

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