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    Ian2

    "Facebook set out its stall to unseat Google and be at the heart of the web experience as it becomes more social".

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8590306.stm

     

     

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    rhm

    If it involves mountains of crappy cross-site javascript and personal data leaking everywhere, which is typical of the current FB integration experience, then no thanks.

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    Ian2

    rhm said:

    If it involves mountains of crappy cross-site javascript and personal data leaking everywhere, which is typical of the current FB integration experience, then no thanks.

    Yes, but do the kids care about that?

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    Charles

    I'd argue that any form of singular dominance in a highly distributed virtual heterogeneous environment like the Internet (World Wide Web is a more precise name for it) is more cause for concern than celebration.
    The question I'd ask is: how much of our experience with the WWW needs to have a social component?

    C

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    magicalclick

    Isn't Facebook already #1 in the social network department? I think they just need to make sure consistant experience instead. They made some changes to the site and the experience is really inconsistant. For example,, you can't assign friend to a group from the top menu drop down. And there are a lot of things people don't know how to use due to confusing UX. I am more worried about them killing themselves.

     

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    Harlequin

    magicalclick said:

    Isn't Facebook already #1 in the social network department? I think they just need to make sure consistant experience instead. They made some changes to the site and the experience is really inconsistant. For example,, you can't assign friend to a group from the top menu drop down. And there are a lot of things people don't know how to use due to confusing UX. I am more worried about them killing themselves.

     

    FB has already made itself too complex. I've been doing web stuff for 10+ years and I can't find my list of friends anymore on the site. Or the apps I have installed.

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    bureX

    Or, how about this... Nobody needs to know if I'm lurking Wikipedia, reading Google News or if I'm watching Brazilian fart porn, nor would I wish to receive the same info related to anybody else's activity. Recently a video streaming site asked me to log in with my Facebook account to proceed... sure - why not? But I almost forgot to uncheck that little checkbox down there that said "hey, I'll let everybody know what you're watching"! So, if I should stumble upon some political debate video stream that includes 4 people with swastika shirts and shaved heads, people will know about it and think I'm Hitler's younger son. Although far fetched, those kinds of situations are exactly what I don't need and the said example could be easily replaced with some guy jacking off, or some dude playing SuperMario with death metal pumping in the background. YouTube has already pissed me off before when it asked me constantly if I would like to gloat about the video rating I have just made... "/me gave 5 stars to Ventrillo harrasment video" - why does it matter!? I thought Facebook was about socializing, not about stalking ffs...

     

    Facebook may become a cool thing to use again when people start using it in a way that does not defy all rules which a civilized person should follow. Would you go around poking people you barely know and asking if they would like to attend your sex life seminar? Well, unless you're a freakin' creep, the answer is a resounding NO. Found a picture of a cute kitty online? I don't care. Like your new shampoo? I don't care. Join the "I like mermaids" group? I don't care. You're in need of assistance because someone in your family is ill? I don't... wait... I DO CARE, but hey, if you've used your Facebook magic a little more rationally, maybe you wouldn't be in a "boy who cried out WOLF" situation right now, would you?

     

    A lot of websites are now integrating Facebook as a preferred login method and it's just a matter of time before somebody abuses that silly script and phishes the hell out of the naive non-techy FB population. On that glorious day I will be behaving in a manner similar to the following video:

    /rant

     

    OnTopic: Facebook will not unseat Google or any other search engine anytime soon because Google gets work done, facebook gets you laid off. The pinnacle of procrastinating that is Facebook will never EVER solely take the lead on the Interbutts. *rises fist towards the bright moon*

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    turrican

    bureX said:

    Or, how about this... Nobody needs to know if I'm lurking Wikipedia, reading Google News or if I'm watching Brazilian fart porn, nor would I wish to receive the same info related to anybody else's activity. Recently a video streaming site asked me to log in with my Facebook account to proceed... sure - why not? But I almost forgot to uncheck that little checkbox down there that said "hey, I'll let everybody know what you're watching"! So, if I should stumble upon some political debate video stream that includes 4 people with swastika shirts and shaved heads, people will know about it and think I'm Hitler's younger son. Although far fetched, those kinds of situations are exactly what I don't need and the said example could be easily replaced with some guy jacking off, or some dude playing SuperMario with death metal pumping in the background. YouTube has already pissed me off before when it asked me constantly if I would like to gloat about the video rating I have just made... "/me gave 5 stars to Ventrillo harrasment video" - why does it matter!? I thought Facebook was about socializing, not about stalking ffs...

     

    Facebook may become a cool thing to use again when people start using it in a way that does not defy all rules which a civilized person should follow. Would you go around poking people you barely know and asking if they would like to attend your sex life seminar? Well, unless you're a freakin' creep, the answer is a resounding NO. Found a picture of a cute kitty online? I don't care. Like your new shampoo? I don't care. Join the "I like mermaids" group? I don't care. You're in need of assistance because someone in your family is ill? I don't... wait... I DO CARE, but hey, if you've used your Facebook magic a little more rationally, maybe you wouldn't be in a "boy who cried out WOLF" situation right now, would you?

     

    A lot of websites are now integrating Facebook as a preferred login method and it's just a matter of time before somebody abuses that silly script and phishes the hell out of the naive non-techy FB population. On that glorious day I will be behaving in a manner similar to the following video:

    /rant

     

    OnTopic: Facebook will not unseat Google or any other search engine anytime soon because Google gets work done, facebook gets you laid off. The pinnacle of procrastinating that is Facebook will never EVER solely take the lead on the Interbutts. *rises fist towards the bright moon*

    I couldn't agree with you more. What I find most disturbing is that they ( big corps and media ) are trying to turn the Internet into a Cable TV. Where Internet means "Facebook + YouTube + Twitter", big brother watching you all the time and they sell you crap they think you need by automated ads all over the place.

     

    It is indeed very disgusting to watch it happen. Sadly, the general morons ( the public ) out there are totally clueless and follow every darn "new hip thing" like a herd of sheeps.

     

    Come to think of it, it is also very creepy and frightening to watch. It's like living in a sci-fi movie where 99% of the population have become corporate zombies or something.

     

    Facebook history "Facebook was founded by Mark Zuckerberg with his college roommates and fellow computer science students Eduardo Saverin, Dustin Moskovitz and Chris Hughes.[7] The website's membership was initially limited by the founders to Harvard students, but was expanded to other colleges in the Boston area, the Ivy League, and Stanford University. It later expanded further to include (potentially) any university student, then high school students, and, finally, to anyone aged 13 and over. The website currently has more than 400 million active users worldwide" ...my eye ball. There are big big corps behind all this crap I tell ya!

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    bureX

    turrican said:
    bureX said:
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    I couldn't agree with you more. What I find most disturbing is that they ( big corps and media ) are trying to turn the Internet into a Cable TV. Where Internet means "Facebook + YouTube + Twitter", big brother watching you all the time and they sell you crap they think you need by automated ads all over the place.

     

    It is indeed very disgusting to watch it happen. Sadly, the general morons ( the public ) out there are totally clueless and follow every darn "new hip thing" like a herd of sheeps.

     

    Come to think of it, it is also very creepy and frightening to watch. It's like living in a sci-fi movie where 99% of the population have become corporate zombies or something.

     

    Facebook history "Facebook was founded by Mark Zuckerberg with his college roommates and fellow computer science students Eduardo Saverin, Dustin Moskovitz and Chris Hughes.[7] The website's membership was initially limited by the founders to Harvard students, but was expanded to other colleges in the Boston area, the Ivy League, and Stanford University. It later expanded further to include (potentially) any university student, then high school students, and, finally, to anyone aged 13 and over. The website currently has more than 400 million active users worldwide" ...my eye ball. There are big big corps behind all this crap I tell ya!

    What I find most disturbing is that they ( big corps and media ) are trying to turn the Internet into a Cable TV.

    That's where NetNeutrality should step in, preserving the Internet for everybody, even the current die-hard Facebook freaks in case if they ever snap out of it. But, alas, some appeal courts in the US are doin' it wrong.

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